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Old Apr 3, 2008 | 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by AWmustang
Make on/off a single button. Leave the set/- side , then change set/+ to be resume/+.

Now all the cruise buttons are on 1 side. Put the audio controls on the other side.
That could work . But are you including all the radio controls or just the on - off function?
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Old Apr 3, 2008 | 06:36 PM
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Maybe a good reason why they shouldn't put any more controls on the wheel is safety . Your cruise control button is convex ( humped out ) so all you have to do is feel for the "on" and "set-accel " without looking down . The dished buttons turn off or allow to coast -- all without looking down ! Plus- your hands should be at 2 -o'clock and 10 o'clock where your cruise controls are . Where is there any room for radio controls ? The bottom spoke ? I wouldn't want my hand or arm there if the air bag went off ! ! It's bad enough that air bags can cause injury / death without proper deployment , let alone us putting ourselves in harm's way -- no more room -- just not safe . Besides that , if I have to die at the hands of my airbag , before I die , the last thing I don't want to hear is bluegrass music because my airbag changed the station !!
Another good reason cited here ... Folks might have too hard a time trying to coordinate steering and changing radio stations.

The radio controls need to stay where they are, or at least put them on the wheel ONLY as an option so you can force only those that want that feature to be the only people who foot the bill for development.
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Old Apr 4, 2008 | 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by TXBLUOVAL
Another good reason cited here ... Folks might have too hard a time trying to coordinate steering and changing radio stations.

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There are thousands of cars (maybe millions) on the road today with radio controls on the steering wheel.

If this were really a safety problem I'm sure some whacko safety organization would have long ago mounted a campaign against them.

And if you think making something optional means that only those who select it pay for its development, you don't really understand business. All those that purchase the V6 Mustang make the V8 a possibility.

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Old Apr 4, 2008 | 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by TXBLUOVAL
The radio controls need to stay where they are, or at least put them on the wheel ONLY as an option so you can force only those that want that feature to be the only people who foot the bill for development.
There is no safety issue. Ford has been putting the radio controls on the steering wheel for years in various products. All you would need is a volume button and station button (+ or -).

The cost would be so minute due to Ford already possessing the parts.
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Old Apr 4, 2008 | 08:34 AM
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Adjusting Radio controls on the stearing wheel is no different than setting cruise

If you don't like it, you don't like.
But other people love it.
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Old Apr 4, 2008 | 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by AWmustang
And if you think making something optional means that only those who select it pay for its development, you don't really understand business.
This is exactly what I've been trying to point out; I aint paying for somebody else's options. I've said that several times before in previous posts.

I know plenty about business, do you?

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Old Apr 4, 2008 | 09:51 AM
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I guess it's what makes people happy . Although, in the past, Ford brought out fancy things like that on the Edsel in the late 50's . But that was the wrong car at the wrong time . Plus , the car itself was not well constructed or thought out . But Ford has to watch their moves now , not like then . Bad stratagy on their part then . But , could history repeat itself ? Certainly ! FoMoCo needs to question the public somehow , to see if such an option is really good for the new Mustang . They assumed before and lost .
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Old Apr 4, 2008 | 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by red pony
FoMoCo needs to question the public somehow , to see if such an option is really good for the new Mustang . They assumed before and lost .
You're absolutely right. Ford should do polls on stuff like this ... it's only smart to go in to expensive R&D with market survey results first.

It just dont seem like the radio controls belong on the steering wheel of an alleged performance car when you are going to drive them like they are meant to be driven.

Maybe only as options ... or at least only on the V-6 cars ... (LOL)
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Old Apr 4, 2008 | 08:08 PM
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According to ALPS the company that makes the button controls a radio set was made but dropped at some point for the 05
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Old Apr 4, 2008 | 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by TXBLUOVAL
You're absolutely right. Ford should do polls on stuff like this ... it's only smart to go in to expensive R&D with market survey results first.

It just dont seem like the radio controls belong on the steering wheel of an alleged performance car when you are going to drive them like they are meant to be driven.

Maybe only as options ... or at least only on the V-6 cars ... (LOL)
You would be very surprised at a focus group to find out exactly how many people like this feature.

Having those on the stearing wheel doesn't inhibit the driving experience what so ever.
If you don't like them, don't use them.

Infact it would be more expensive for Ford to offer 2 options (with/without) than just 1.
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Old Apr 5, 2008 | 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Boomer
You would be very surprised at a focus group to find out exactly how many people like this feature.

Having those on the stearing wheel doesn't inhibit the driving experience what so ever.
If you don't like them, don't use them.

Infact it would be more expensive for Ford to offer 2 options (with/without) than just 1.
I really don't care how many people like this feature. I'm not going to pay for something for them to enjoy if I don't want it on my car.

They want it bad enough, THEY can bear the entire cost.

How do you know which would be more expensive? If that is the case then you've jsut reinforced the reason(s) not to offer that silly option ... (LOL)

And no ... if I don't want it I aint buying it ...
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Old Apr 5, 2008 | 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Boomer
If you don't like them, don't use them.
I got a better idea ... if you want them bad enough then YOU pay the entire cost of the option either by having Ford install it as an option or you go out and buy aftermarket and put it on yourself.

I've talked to lots of folks that do not want that added to a steering wheel and don't feel they should have to bear the brunt of the R & D costs just so others can say they got another "option".

If you don't like the car without it then don't buy it.

Actually I hope they outlaw stuff like that.

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Old Apr 5, 2008 | 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by TXBLUOVAL
I got a better idea ... if you want them bad enough then YOU pay the entire cost of the option either by having Ford install it as an option or you go out and buy aftermarket and put it on yourself.

I've talked to lots of folks that do not want that added to a steering wheel and don't feel they should have to bear the brunt of the R & D costs just so others can say they got another "option".

If you don't like the car without it then don't buy it.

Actually I hope they outlaw stuff like that.
You are one person. Ford builds the car for the masses. The masses want more standard features. Having steering wheel controls is a nice feature and it's very cheap. I don't know why you are talking about R&D costs like Ford is building a new space shuttle. Ford already has this feature in its vehicles currently. It's a matter of simply adding buttons to the steering wheel and synching it with the stereo. Again, all of this technology has been around for YEARS.

I'll put it this way....If you are worrying about the cost of steering wheel buttons, you cannot truely afford the car.
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Old Apr 5, 2008 | 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by TXBLUOVAL
I got a better idea ... if you want them bad enough then YOU pay the entire cost of the option either by having Ford install it as an option or you go out and buy aftermarket and put it on yourself.

I've talked to lots of folks that do not want that added to a steering wheel and don't feel they should have to bear the brunt of the R & D costs just so others can say they got another "option".

If you don't like the car without it then don't buy it.

Actually I hope they outlaw stuff like that.
Ford would have to build 2 different configurations.
One with button, one without.
Because of the type of feature this is, the cost would be disipated between all the variants of cars and their option features.

Do you really think that for features on your option list, that the cost the customer pays was strictly for the R/D of that one piece?

Newsflash, it gets spread across the board to keep the prices down for everyone.

So in the end, yes it would be cheaper to offer it to everyone as standard.
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Old Apr 5, 2008 | 09:36 AM
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So in the end, yes it would be cheaper to offer it to everyone as standard.
I could really care less because if I buy one I'm not going to pay for something I dont want.

And again ... I hope they outlaw this kind of nonsense.

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Old Apr 5, 2008 | 10:29 AM
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You won't be buying a car ever then I take it?

This isn't exactly a new practice...
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Old Apr 5, 2008 | 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by max2000jp
If you are worrying about the cost of steering wheel buttons, you cannot truely afford the car.
ROFLMAO ... How do you know what someone can and cannot afford ... ???
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Old Apr 5, 2008 | 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by TXBLUOVAL
ROFLMAO ... How do you know what someone can and cannot afford ... ???
If you are complaining about 100 dollars on a 30K car, you cannot afford it. Just like the folks buying a Vette and *****ing about the insurance. Or a Range Rover and complaining about the gas mileage.
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Old Apr 5, 2008 | 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Boomer
You won't be buying a car ever then I take it?

This isn't exactly a new practice...
Theres always one in the crowd..

All I can say is take a basic business class.
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Old Apr 5, 2008 | 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by max2000jp
If you are complaining about 100 dollars on a 30K car
You might want to rewind this to yourself and see how it sounds.

And I still hope they outlaw this kind of nonsense.
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