The dates. How long ago was the 2010 design finalized?

 

well he did say its a drivable car thats fully capable of being produced, so maybe we will see something along the line of the Giugiaro's Concept in the future, say maybe around 2014? what ya think?

 

i mean as far as the "Giugiaro's Concept" being drivable, just want to advoid confusion

 

I don't know. Perhaps gnat-sum can shed some light on this subject.

 

2006 I believe.

 

Steven, I Don't Know Where You Come Up With This Crap. I Have Always said that the Original Mustang Was Influenced By European Sports Cars, I Even Stated that Ford Designed the Original Mustang With Smaller Lighter European Sports Cars, that GI's were Used to Driving While in Europe, in Mind.

However I Do Not See Any European Influence in the 2010 Mustang, with the Exception of the Front Kinda Reminding me of an Aston Martin, Which I Also Said About the 2005's, and Do Not think The Designers Intended. What Really Irritates Me is the People who Keep saying the 2010 looks like a Japanese Import though. That simply is not true.

The closest I've Ever seen the Mustang come to looking like a Japanese Import was the SN-95's 94-04 which I still don't really even consider looking Japanese, it was just the Mustang had Lost It's Classic Rear Wheel Drive, Axle to Dash Ratio, Which is the distance from the dash to the centerline of the Front Wheels, when Ford Introduced the Fox Platform and which the S-197 re-Introduced.

At one point I actually thought Ford was going to Loose the Mustangs Market to The Japanese Imports, and I Designed a Couple of More Radical Mustangs Specifically Targeted at that Asian Import Crowd, because I didn't think Ford would Re-Capture that Mustang Magic. My thinking was "If You Can't Beat Em Join Em"

I got to thinking about things that made a Mustang a Mustang in the 60's and 70's, such as the Gas Cap between the Tri Bar Tail Lights, which I Knew could Never Work on a Modern Car, but I didn't think about using that Look as a Badge as Ford Did.

I thought about the Forward Leaning Shark Nose, which again I didn't see making it in a Modern world for Aerodynamic Reasons. Even BMW was even Abandoning it for those same Aerodynamic reasons although it had been a BMW trademark since the 60's as well. Yet Ford Saw a Way to Re-Introduce it on the 05 and continues to Use it on the 2010.

Ford had already started Picking up some thing such as the Tri-Bar Tail Lights and C-Scoop on the 94-04's which I incorporated in My "Asian Stang" as Well which were Also Elements that Made a Mustang a Mustang back in the 60's and 70's, but I didn't see the 2003 Concept Coming. I still remember standing in the middle of the Local News Stand Looking at the First Magazine article about that BEAUTIFUL Silver Fastback.

I couldn't get the money out of my pockets fast enough to buy that Magazine as well as every other Magazine I could find about that Concept. I knew Ford had Found It's Way again with the Mustang at that point, and only Hoped they would Build it, Because I knew if they did that the Mustangs Market was Locked In, No More Need for my Import Fighting Asian Stang.

Ford had Re-Invented the Pony Car All Over Again, a Fact Only Reinforced in my mind, when I walked onto the Showroom Floor of the Daytona Ford Dealership the Friday after Thanksgiving in 2004 and Saw the Red Concept Convertible. I Looked at My Mom and Saw the Expression on her Face As Well, and Said, "Now That's A Mustang!" I made it My Mission that year at the Turkey Rod Run to Find the 1:18th Scale Models of the Coupe and Convertible Concepts.

When Ford Finally Introduced the 05's and I went to a Local Show with my Mom to see the Sneak Preview, I was Both Ecstatic as well as a Bit Let Down. Yes It Looked Like a Mustang, and I still Saw A Lot of the Concept In It, But I felt they had Dumbed It Down for Production, But I Still LOVED IT! But It Left Me Wanting More, which Ford Gave Me, and the Rest Of The World When they Introduced the 2010.

 

before Guigaro made his concept. It is a fact

 

So if it's a fact, tell us the dates and provide a reference. I really doubt what you're saying is fact, but of course you can prove me wrong if you know your statement is factual and accurate.

 

Seems a little early to me. Manufacturers can bring an all-new car to production in less than three years these days, so to say a refresh was finalized more than three years before it will hit production doesn't seem right.

 

Post #20 gives a reference from an interview with Giugiaro. Personnally after looking at his concept, it doesn't look much at all like the 2010. The rear ends are completely different. The 2010 looks more like the '05 concept vehicle than anything else.

 

Yeah, no kidding. I read the article in the magazine back when it was published. He doesn't say anywhere that his concept design was completed before the 2010 design was completed. For all we know, he could have seen some of the styling concepts that Ford designers were considering at the time. In fact, I'm sure he didn't even know that 2010 was the year that the Mustang styling would change. Back when the article was published, most people were still thinking that it would be '09 at the latest. The point is that people are claiming facts without being able to back it up.

 

Not from the back. It couldn't possibly look any more different from the '05 concept vehicle from the back.

 

My comment about the back was concering the Giugiaro concept. The argument has been that the 2010 is based off that concept. I think the 2010 as a whole looks more like the '05 concept than the Giugiaro concept.

 

According to Ford's own 1971 product highlight:

"Mustang's trend-setting long hood/short deck proportions have been dramatically accentuated in 1971. The new rooflines for the hardtop and Sportsroof models reflect the influence that the great European road cars have had on the styling of the Mustang."

I guess you didn't know...

 

That may be. But since there's obviously (arguably?) a European influence in all the Mustang designs, there has to be something at the bottom of the list. And IMO, those models would be it.

I'm not denying it's there, just that it's much less apparent.

 

IMO I would disagree - take a look at that era's Italian Grand Turisomo types...


More importantly - the 2010 IMO has European styling concepts blended with Mustang lines regardless of when Giugiaro made his. Don't you think Ford designers look somewhat at his coupe to influence their own and visa versa- of course.

 

TampaBear..Thanks for the link. That is a great site for an old guy. As to the euro influence on the Mustang, I can only say, my '79 Silver over Black Cobra (no Snake on the hood) was a crowd stopper while I was assigned to Germany. The Germans loved that car. Kids would stop outside the house and just stand and stare at it. Quite honestly, I am waiting until I see the 2010 in person. I don't dislike the design, I would just like to walk around and take it in before I make a final decision.

 

Great, until you said this I didn't see it but now when I look at the back I can so see Jet Jaguar driving it around. It has to be all the angles.

 

Have you ever been to Sweden? For some reason, the Mustang is very popular over there. There are a lot of guys who seem to have a Mustang tucked away in their garages for weekends/car shows/special occasions. It's almost like a cult following.

 

Man, I don't know how many times I have to say this, but the 2010 Mustang was designed and signed off PRIOR to the Giugiaro Mustang design. Giugiaro took the design of the 2010 and exaggerated it beyond what it possible in normal production.