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Old 12/18/09, 03:07 PM
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Judging by the specs of this transmission:

http://www.getrag.de/en/239

This might be what the MT-82 is based on. Seems legit to me.
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What ever the MT-82 is based on or who builds it for Ford, hope it has good shifting characteristics and is tough enough to handle the hp mods you know will be thrown at the Mustang's 5.0 V8. (<---- it's so nice to be able to say that again!)
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I just made a post on another thread about this. Looks like this tranny has about the same torque capacity as the outgoing 3650. What's up with that?
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Originally Posted by whysoserious
I just made a post on another thread about this. Looks like this tranny has about the same torque capacity as the outgoing 3650. What's up with that?
What's wrong with it? The 3650 was overrated on the 05-10's. What do you want the tranny to be rated at? 700 lbs?
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Originally Posted by eci
What's wrong with it? The 3650 was overrated on the 05-10's. What do you want the tranny to be rated at? 700 lbs?
Nah, I just figured that with the increase in power that Ford would want to take extra caution to prevent failures, etc. The TR6060 is rated at 600ft-lbs after all. But you are right about the 3650, we've all seen that tranny handle some big power output no problem.
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You can be sure that the transmission has been tested, tested, and tested some more by Ford to make sure they don't have the issues that Ford had to deal with the 3650.
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I thought Ford was going to use the TR6060 for the GT, to be honest.
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Originally Posted by Captain Spadaro
I thought Ford was going to use the TR6060 for the GT, to be honest.
Overkill. It is rated at 610 torque. Why throw that into a car with an engine rated at 390? Then again there are various versions of the trans, the GT500 has the strongest one.
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Originally Posted by Captain Spadaro
I thought Ford was going to use the TR6060 for the GT, to be honest.
TR6060 wouldn't be much help keeping the weight down. It's great for trucks but huge for a pony car.
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Originally Posted by Moosetang
TR6060 wouldn't be much help keeping the weight down. It's great for trucks but huge for a pony car.
rofl, was that a serious post?

That's why it's in the C6, Z06, ZR1, SS, Challenger, GT500, etc, cuz it's "great for trucks". Ever check the weight of a Z06 with its truck transmission?

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The T6060 is double overdrive is it not?
The MT82 is a single OD, 5th gear is 1:1
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If it isn't double overdrive, there won't be much, if any, increase in mpg hwy(but I guess it would help city). I'm very sure you know alot more about this trans than I do, (i know the name and it has 6 gears) but why wouldn't they take advantage of dual od? That might exlain why we are hearing 25mpg and not higher.
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Originally Posted by mrk1984
If it isn't double overdrive, there won't be much, if any, increase in mpg hwy(but I guess it would help city). I'm very sure you know alot more about this trans than I do, (i know the name and it has 6 gears) but why wouldn't they take advantage of dual od? That might exlain why we are hearing 25mpg and not higher.
25mpg is an early, conservative estimate more than likely....and I doubt that the T6060 would make much if any difference. I think the point of the MT-82 is good economy and very smooth shifting and positive, direct action when rowing through the gears.
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Originally Posted by jsaylor
25mpg is an early, conservative estimate more than likely....and I doubt that the T6060 would make much if any difference. I think the point of the MT-82 is good economy and very smooth shifting and positive, direct action when rowing through the gears.
And the TR-6060 isn't? Triple cone synchros on 1-4 gears with dual cones on the 5-6 gears, I gotta say the TR-6060 is probably the nicest Tremec on the market.
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Probably one of the most expensive as well.
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Originally Posted by Boomer
The T6060 is double overdrive is it not?
The MT82 is a single OD, 5th gear is 1:1
OK, so for the 2011 V6, fifth will be 1:1 and only 6th will be overdrive. Does the GT automatically get the same gear ratios as the V6 or do you think they will be different? With the V6 I can see not wanting too deep an overdrive so that you still have some passing power without downshifting. But with the torque of the Coyote, I would think they would make both 5th and 6th overdrive, unless it's impractical to have different gearing for the V6 and the GT.
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Originally Posted by Boomer
Probably one of the most expensive as well.
Economies of scale, etc...
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Originally Posted by jsaylor
good economy and very smooth shifting and positive, direct action when rowing through the gears.
You just described the current TR6060 in the GT500. Try one sometime. Best transmission and stock shifter ever put in a Mustang. 1st Mustang I have ever owned where the stock shifter will stay.
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Originally Posted by BlueBossS197
Economies of scale, etc...
At what point is it overkill though?

It's useless to put something in, that in 90% of the cases (or more) won't even hit that mark.
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Originally Posted by BlueBossS197
And the TR-6060 isn't? Triple cone synchros on 1-4 gears with dual cones on the 5-6 gears, I gotta say the TR-6060 is probably the nicest Tremec on the market.
I agree, but being the nicest Tremec, and even a great transmission overall, doesn't automatically make it the slickest feeling shifter on earth. There is a very 'direct' sort of action about the TR-6060 that I'm betting wont be there on the T-86, and I'm likewise betting that will be on purpose. Just based upon what I have read I have a feeling Ford is going more for the kind of super-slick, 'this shifter must be moving over silk' kind of action you typically get from the box in a Miata or nicer Honda offerings with the new T-86. Whether or not you like that kind of thing, particularly is a Mustang, is a matter of preference. And of course, I could be wrong.

Originally Posted by eci
You just described the current TR6060 in the GT500. Try one sometime. Best transmission and stock shifter ever put in a Mustang. 1st Mustang I have ever owned where the stock shifter will stay.
Read my post above. Again, I have a feeling Ford is going for that super-smooth action you get in some of the nicer, lower powered cars like the Miata but which is so difficult to manage in transmissions designed to handle big power. The TR-6060 is a very nice piece, but it's hard to get that kind of overkill fluidity in a transmission that handles the kind of torque the TR-6060 does. Heck, it's hard to find that kind of fluidity in a transmission that can handle the kind of torque the Mustang GT will be putting out, but like I said earlier I think that is what Ford is going for given the MT-82's spec sheet.

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