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Old Jul 26, 2012 | 06:37 PM
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Mods today...oh wow!

So today I had 3.73 gears put in, BBK headers, hi-flo cat shorty X pipe, Barton shifter and 2-post bracket, lower control arms and Roush anti-wheel hop kit....

...and all I have to say is WOW! My "little" v6 feels like a beast now. There is no placebo in affect here. I noticed one time accelerating that I actually felt pushed back into the seat when I was just doing a normal acceleration lol. And the suspension upgrades appear to have eliminated my wheel spin. I got on it hard and all I felt was the car hugging the road with just chirping instead of all out wheel spin like before. And on top of that the headers sound freakn' great with the magnaflows. The headers are raspy and the magnaflow deep, so they are a PERFECT combo I think. The shop did an awesome job on the gears too. In fact I was supposed to get the car yesterday but they didn't like how the gears felt at first so they wanted to shim them up more. That impressed me that I didn't have to complain to them at all, they wanted to make sure the gears were done right before I took the car. They do race cars around here so it's awesome having a shop that really knows what they are doing.

So total performance upgrades, Bama 93 race tune, Nitto's, Driveshaft, Magnaflow street catback exhaust, BBK headers and hi flow cat shorty x-pipe, Barton shifter/bracket, MTL gear oil, JLT CAI, oh and some octane booster thrown in the engine for good measure lol. I have a ton of cosmetic upgrades too. Driving this car around today was a freakn head magnet too I tell you. Driving by groups of people and just watching every head follow my car LOL!!

Almost all parts bought through American Muscle too which I've been very impressed with their service. They even took back the first set of 4.10 gears without even batting an eye after I got them and had second thoughts about them and instead wanted the 3.73's.

Can't wait to get this back to the track and see how it goes!
Old Jul 27, 2012 | 04:29 AM
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Can I ask what this total package cost you?
Old Jul 27, 2012 | 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by db2797
So today I had 3.73 gears put in, BBK headers, hi-flo cat shorty X pipe, Barton shifter and 2-post bracket, lower control arms and Roush anti-wheel hop kit....

...and all I have to say is WOW! My "little" v6 feels like a beast now. There is no placebo in affect here. I noticed one time accelerating that I actually felt pushed back into the seat when I was just doing a normal acceleration lol. And the suspension upgrades appear to have eliminated my wheel spin. I got on it hard and all I felt was the car hugging the road with just chirping instead of all out wheel spin like before. And on top of that the headers sound freakn' great with the magnaflows. The headers are raspy and the magnaflow deep, so they are a PERFECT combo I think. The shop did an awesome job on the gears too. In fact I was supposed to get the car yesterday but they didn't like how the gears felt at first so they wanted to shim them up more. That impressed me that I didn't have to complain to them at all, they wanted to make sure the gears were done right before I took the car. They do race cars around here so it's awesome having a shop that really knows what they are doing.

So total performance upgrades, Bama 93 race tune, Nitto's, Driveshaft, Magnaflow street catback exhaust, BBK headers and hi flow cat shorty x-pipe, Barton shifter/bracket, MTL gear oil, JLT CAI, oh and some octane booster thrown in the engine for good measure lol. I have a ton of cosmetic upgrades too. Driving this car around today was a freakn head magnet too I tell you. Driving by groups of people and just watching every head follow my car LOL!!

Almost all parts bought through American Muscle too which I've been very impressed with their service. They even took back the first set of 4.10 gears without even batting an eye after I got them and had second thoughts about them and instead wanted the 3.73's.

Can't wait to get this back to the track and see how it goes!
db2797,

Graet choice of mods, I'm sure you have quite the head turner! You have by far one of the most tastefully modded Sixxers to date!

With that set up, I'm really looking forward seeing your track times! Post up some pics of the car & some time slips, we'd love to check them out!

Thanks for being a Great & Loyal customer to American Muscle, we greatly appreciate it!

- Dan

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Old Jul 27, 2012 | 08:22 AM
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Pics or it didn't happen.. LOL
Old Jul 27, 2012 | 08:51 AM
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Sounds like a fantastic setup, db. Way to go.-----Bill
Old Jul 27, 2012 | 09:10 AM
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Can I ask what this total package cost you?
Why? So you can start the "for that money you should've gotten the V8" like you did in the other thread
Old Jul 27, 2012 | 09:47 AM
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That's a cool list of mods. More power to you for being original.
Old Jul 27, 2012 | 10:05 AM
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That's a really good list. Congrats! Have fun
Old Jul 27, 2012 | 02:04 PM
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Thanks everybody! I just want to drive my car all the time now lol.

Originally Posted by newpony
Why? So you can start the "for that money you should've gotten the V8" like you did in the other thread
yeah, I'm still not following the whole you should have just bought a v8 argument. If my goal was to be a GT then that would make sense. But my goal is to have a unique car and ultimately it is to be a better looking car than a GT, a better performing car than a GT, a faster car than a GT and a better sounding car than a GT. Which means if I had bought a GT, I would still need to do all these mods to accomplish that goal. People seem to not realize that virtually none of these mods you can do "get you closer to a GT" but instead give you attributes that a GT doesn't have unless of course you're strictly talking about HP. But for instance, I buy headers for both HP and sound. I buy gears to be in the power band. I buy suspension pieces to have better traction and handling. Having a GT doesn't exempt you from all those same mods. I would still have to spend that money on the same car.

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Old Jul 27, 2012 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by db2797
Thanks everybody! I just want to drive my car all the time now lol.



yeah, I'm still not following the whole you should have just bought a v8 argument. If my goal was to be a GT then that would make sense. But my goal is to have a unique car and ultimately it is to be a better looking car than a GT, a better performing car than a GT, a faster car than a GT and a better sounding car than a GT. Which means if I had bought a GT, I would still need to do all these mods to accomplish that goal. People seem to not realize that virtually none of these mods you can do "get you closer to a GT" but instead give you attributes that a GT doesn't have unless of course you're strictly talking about HP. But for instance, I buy headers for both HP and sound. I buy gears to be in the power band. I buy suspension pieces to have better traction and handling. Having a GT doesn't exempt you from all those same mods. I would still have to spend that money on the same car.
Actually, trying to make your car faster than a gt will, in fact, cost more than making a GT faster than other GT's. You drive a V6. It's not as powerful. The brembo GT also has a more aggressive suspension setup according to the owners, which means they may already have most of what you're putting on your credit card. Just sayin'. It's fine if you want to do that with your six, but don't try and tell people you're going to make it faster than a GT and expect people to believe it would cost the same to make a GT do what you're trying to make your car do.
Old Jul 27, 2012 | 02:16 PM
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Actually, trying to make your car faster than a gt will, in fact, cost more than making a GT faster than other GT's. You drive a V6. It's not as powerful. The brembo GT also has a more aggressive suspension setup according to the owners, which means they may already have most of what you're putting on your credit card. Just sayin'. It's fine if you want to do that with your six, but don't try and tell people you're going to make it faster than a GT and expect people to believe it would cost the same to make a GT do what you're trying to make your car do.
Talk about being on the $!
Old Jul 27, 2012 | 02:19 PM
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I never understood and I scratch my head why some GT owners think the ultimate goal of anyone owning a Mustang is to have the 5.0!! For example for a little bit more than the money I spent on my car I could have gotten a GTHIG GT Premium. But it would be just that. It would not have all the features like I specified in my V6. Sure I would have the 5.0 but would not have the Comfort Package, Performance Package wheels, etc etc..

Bottom line is I could have spent 10K more to get the exact car I have in a GT but only gaining the 5.0 engine. The extra 120 or so HP is not worth to me the 10K. Its like a GT500 owner asking a GT owner who has put a lot of mods in their car "Hey why didn't you just buy a GT500?" and you could be making 650HP. Not everyone has the budget to throw down or pay over $$$$$ per month on a car, but mods can be done in stages to make your own car be what others are not. The new V6 is definitely a great car with more HP then the previous year GT's and a Great car to make your own.
Old Jul 27, 2012 | 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by kcoTiger
Actually, trying to make your car faster than a gt will, in fact, cost more than making a GT faster than other GT's. You drive a V6. It's not as powerful. The brembo GT also has a more aggressive suspension setup according to the owners, which means they may already have most of what you're putting on your credit card. Just sayin'. It's fine if you want to do that with your six, but don't try and tell people you're going to make it faster than a GT and expect people to believe it would cost the same to make a GT do what you're trying to make your car do.
You've completely missed the point. My goal is NOT to ONLY make my car faster than a GT. It is the 4 things I listed above which are sound, speed, looks and handling. All of the above mods would have to be done on a GT as well. Ultimately, to make a GT faster than a GT, and to accomplish all of the above said goals would still cost more on a GT since the base price is higher. If I wanted strictly a faster car than a GT then the only mod I would need is the supercharger which would be about 5 grand more.

I don't know what is so difficult to understand about the above concept? The mods above would STILL need to be done a GT to have the same results of all 3 components which are not strictly HP related. Which means ultimately, it would still cost more to mod a GT. Granted yes, after modding with everything, I would have a GT faster than a V6 modded to the same point. But the GT would STILL cost more after all said mods.
Old Jul 27, 2012 | 02:28 PM
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I never understood and I scratch my head why some GT owners think the ultimate goal of anyone owning a Mustang is to have the 5.0!!
I'm with you man. I think it's from a lack of understanding about what the purpose of modding cars is. It seems that some think that every mod is only for the purpose of getting additional HP. Virtually no mod by itself will strictly get you HP without some other additional benefit beyond that that can only be achieved by higher HP cars by doing the same said mod.

For instance, you can have the fastest car at the track in bracket racing, but it ain't gonna do you much good against other cars that have many of these mods even if the car with those mods has much less HP.
Old Jul 27, 2012 | 02:42 PM
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Mine being a Daily Driver I did not want the extra HP even though I could afford it. A lot of my younger GT owning friends thought I should have purchased the GTHIG GT for just 1500 more than what the MSRP for mine was. However.. Since mine is a Daily Driver to be used all year round. I wanted heated seats, heated mirrors, or setup like the V6 I purchased. Now in stages I can add the Drive shaft, CAI etc to make it better than it is stock and still faster then the 2010 and previous years N/A GT's and at a lower cost. My last v6 I modded to make it look f*cking hot style wise and quicker than a stock one. I upgraded to the 2013 not for the extra HP from the V6 4.0L but for the Sync, Heated Seats, 6 Speed manual, Better handling package. In fact all the upgrades I did to my 06 the new 13 already and then some. The extra 100HP was a added bonus but was not in my though pattern as the whole reason to go from a fully paid off car with only 46K miles to a car costing me $$$ every month. Here is my 06 and as you can see may be not the Fastest of Mustangs but had it setup sweet enough that when I sold it 6 years later I only took a 4K loss.
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Old Jul 27, 2012 | 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by db2797

I don't know what is so difficult to understand about the above concept? The mods above would STILL need to be done a GT to have the same results of all 3 components which are not strictly HP related. Which means ultimately, it would still cost more to mod a GT. Granted yes, after modding with everything, I would have a GT faster than a V6 modded to the same point. But the GT would STILL cost more after all said mods.
First, the sound from a GT is light years better than from a V6, even stock. The cost of making a GT sound like my GT500 is minuscule compared to what it would cost to try and bring the sound from a V6 to something people want to hear. That's just the way it is. In addition, sound is subjective, which means a GT owner may be perfectly happy with his sound and not spend a dime on it--something you aren't capable of doing, since you've already said you're spending money on it. As I also said before, in the post you quoted (but apparently didn't read very well), there are GT models that already have a stronger, more aggressive suspension on them. You're considering cost of purchase, but you say nothing about the possible cost of repairs--and wisely so, because the brembo GT is under warranty for all those parts; yours isn't and the cost of repairing any of it will come from your wallet--increasing the actual cost of your mods. But then, perhaps you hadn't considered that aspect. I'm willing to bet that it's possible to mod a GT to the point that it will not only beat your car around the track, it will cost less to do so and might even remain under warranty. I'm sorry you seem to have some difficulty grasping the rather simple points I've made; perhaps with a more careful reading, you'll understand that you're almost certainly wrong about this. Cheers.
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Without getting so absolutely over the top defensive like most of the V6 guys, how are you planning on making it sound better then a V8?

This is the only goal of yours i'm having a hard time figuring out.

AGAIN this is just a question.
Old Jul 27, 2012 | 02:56 PM
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Without getting so absolutely over the top defensive like most of the V6 guys, how are you planning on making it sound better then a V8?

This is the only goal of yours i'm having a hard time figuring out.

AGAIN this is just a question.
Maybe we get defensive because all the years of GT owners asking why we did not get a GT.. For me its been over 6 years of hearing it. I agree the GT's sound f*cking awesome and I have not heard a V6 sound like a GT.. Myself I like the sound of my V6 when I get on it.. but hey that's my old ears.. So I will have to agree that there is no way he can get his GT to sound like or better than a GT.. He can get it to sound good however.

also I may add.. he did kinda asked to get the GT owners on this thread to kick in when he stated better than a GT.. Them's fighting words. He should have stated close to a GT on some of those comments and faster than a N/A GT. /end

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Old Jul 27, 2012 | 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Tron84
Without getting so absolutely over the top defensive like most of the V6 guys, how are you planning on making it sound better then a V8?

This is the only goal of yours i'm having a hard time figuring out.

AGAIN this is just a question.
Oh please...with headers and a magnaflow a v6 can sound better than a v8. Now add those same mods to the v8 and the v8 sounds better. I'm not arguing that.
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Maybe we get defensive because all the years of GT owners asking why we did not get a GT.. For me its been over 6 years of hearing it. I agree the GT's sound f*cking awesome and I have not heard a V6 sound like a GT.. Myself I like the sound of my V6 when I get on it.. but hey that's my old ears.. So I will have to agree that there is no way he can get his GT to sound like or better than a GT.. He can get it to sound good however.

also I may add.. he did kinda asked to get the GT owners on this thread to kick in when he stated better than a GT.. Them's fighting words. He should have stated close to a GT on some of those comments and faster than a N/A GT. /end
I only brought up the GT when the usual insinuations against v6's started. Let me make myself clear since it is being lost in translation. I'm not saying a v6 is better than a v8. I'm not even using the GT as a baseline even though I may have seemed like I was. I don't care about the v8. My goal is to make my car the best it can possibly be on those 4 attributes. With the mods I'm doing, the fact is that it will be better than the stock GT in ALL of those attributes. Now, mod the GT, and it will be BETTER than my v6. That's not the argument.

Let me be clear again. The GT is NOT my baseline. I'm strictly making these mods because the car will hands down be awesome. I'm just sick of these arguments that try to negate the positive affects of mods and bring up the idiotic argument about "why didn't you just buy a GT". Because I didn't want to spend the extra money when I planned on incrementally making these mods that I would have done anyways on a v8. That's why. End of story.

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