Locking Gas Cap for our 2010-2014's...
8/19/14, 11:47 AM
#21
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What will be more interesting is to see how long it takes you before this cap gets tossed due to inconvenience 
and no worries, I can take a joke.
I'm a little weary about the whole thing not having a lock on the gas door, Like I've been so accustom to having (since the 90's) but.... I'm putting some faith in this technology and hope that noone fiddles with my tank.
and no worries, I can take a joke.
I'm a little weary about the whole thing not having a lock on the gas door, Like I've been so accustom to having (since the 90's) but.... I'm putting some faith in this technology and hope that noone fiddles with my tank.
8/19/14, 11:48 AM
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Here's a pic of it installed. It's actually a pretty nice piece. It seems to be a mixture of hard plastic or rubber and other materials. Turning the key moved the tab on the plug that locks it into the fuel flange opening. I'm not quite sure how robust this thing really is, because I'm sure if somebody wanted to really get in there all they have to do is pry at it really hard.
I can take a pic later when I get home to show the backside of the plug. I just ran home quickly for lunch and had time to do a quick install.
Edit: photo uploading on this stupid app is STILL not working. Come on mods, please fix that already. It's been 2 weeks or more.
I can take a pic later when I get home to show the backside of the plug. I just ran home quickly for lunch and had time to do a quick install.
Edit: photo uploading on this stupid app is STILL not working. Come on mods, please fix that already. It's been 2 weeks or more.
8/19/14, 12:14 PM
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Why do you need a locking gas cap on a toy that you never park anywhere and leave unattended?
As for the locking flap and how it works for a gas nozzle and not for a finger, I can't answer but I know for a fact fueling systems are more advanced than just a pipe - the gas pump automatically stopping when the tank is full is an application of the Bernoulli theorem.
As for the locking flap and how it works for a gas nozzle and not for a finger, I can't answer but I know for a fact fueling systems are more advanced than just a pipe - the gas pump automatically stopping when the tank is full is an application of the Bernoulli theorem.
8/19/14, 12:52 PM
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Why do you need a locking gas cap on a toy that you never park anywhere and leave unattended?
As for the locking flap and how it works for a gas nozzle and not for a finger, I can't answer but I know for a fact fueling systems are more advanced than just a pipe - the gas pump automatically stopping when the tank is full is an application of the Bernoulli theorem.
As for the locking flap and how it works for a gas nozzle and not for a finger, I can't answer but I know for a fact fueling systems are more advanced than just a pipe - the gas pump automatically stopping when the tank is full is an application of the Bernoulli theorem.
As for the Bernoulli Principle, yep quite familiar with that, and that applies to how the gas fills/prevents overflow. But Joe just said the metal flap "locks" or prevents from opening by other objects...was just curious how.
8/19/14, 01:02 PM
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I own a 2009 Ford Flex. I recently ran out of gas. I have concerns about your "easy fuel no cap" fuel system.
Who would ever think that a special funnel is needed to add fuel from a portable tank? I tried everything I could think of to pry open or force open the little fuel door. Nothing worked.
Finally, I was able with some help to push the vehicle to a gas station and was able to fill the tank there. I later read about needing the special funnel in my owner’s manual. This is a very poor design in my opinion. Why can’t the fuel door be made so that any portable gas can will work without the need for the special funnel? People who are out of gas are frustrated enough already. This is also a safety concern; what if someone runs out of gas on a busy expressway? This would not be the time to fumble around with this trying to make it work in the middle of busy traffic. Not being able to figure it out, as was the case with me, could cause someone in this situation to try and push the vehicle in dangerous conditions and could cause someone to loose their life. Yes, I know we should all read our owner’s manuals – but having to use a special funnel is just not something most people would even think about.
Please consider changing this design so that the fuel door will work with the nozzle on any portable gas can, NOT requiring your special funnel to be used. Also, when the vehicle is very low on gas, say a ten mile range or less, could you consider having a yellow or red light go on (on the dash) to warn people (preferably flashing)? I realize it says “Fuel level low” on the dash but I never look at that display and it is not obvious because it is in the same green lettering that it uses to display other info – it is just not noticeable. You could at least make this warning flash when the range is very low, or add an additional red or yellow warning light as I am suggesting that flashes. Thanks for listening.
Who would ever think that a special funnel is needed to add fuel from a portable tank? I tried everything I could think of to pry open or force open the little fuel door. Nothing worked.
Finally, I was able with some help to push the vehicle to a gas station and was able to fill the tank there. I later read about needing the special funnel in my owner’s manual. This is a very poor design in my opinion. Why can’t the fuel door be made so that any portable gas can will work without the need for the special funnel? People who are out of gas are frustrated enough already. This is also a safety concern; what if someone runs out of gas on a busy expressway? This would not be the time to fumble around with this trying to make it work in the middle of busy traffic. Not being able to figure it out, as was the case with me, could cause someone in this situation to try and push the vehicle in dangerous conditions and could cause someone to loose their life. Yes, I know we should all read our owner’s manuals – but having to use a special funnel is just not something most people would even think about.
Please consider changing this design so that the fuel door will work with the nozzle on any portable gas can, NOT requiring your special funnel to be used. Also, when the vehicle is very low on gas, say a ten mile range or less, could you consider having a yellow or red light go on (on the dash) to warn people (preferably flashing)? I realize it says “Fuel level low” on the dash but I never look at that display and it is not obvious because it is in the same green lettering that it uses to display other info – it is just not noticeable. You could at least make this warning flash when the range is very low, or add an additional red or yellow warning light as I am suggesting that flashes. Thanks for listening.
Below explains how it works.
https://media.ford.com/content/fordm...-siphonin.html
Seems like the locking gas cap is largely unneeded unless you live in the ghetto or have a lot of semi-determined enemies
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8/19/14, 01:49 PM
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^ very very interesting. So it looks like I have "extra" protection with the locking gas cap. lol.
Is the special "funnel" something that's already in our cars/spare tire area, or do we have to buy?
Is the special "funnel" something that's already in our cars/spare tire area, or do we have to buy?
8/19/14, 01:54 PM
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8/19/14, 02:56 PM
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8/19/14, 03:38 PM
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Burton, good choice on the locking gas cap. While the capless design prevents gas theft, it does nothing to prevent deliberate vandalism or sabotage. Any scumbag with the OEM white plastic funnel can quickly circumvent the gas tank locking flap mechanism and insert their mayhem. That’s where a locking gas cap provides a visual deterrent and a layer of security. Conventional wisdom says you're better off with a locking gas cap than without one. Me thinks.
8/19/14, 04:22 PM
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You guys are way too paranoid. I bet there hasn't been 50 Mustangs in the last 10 years that this has happened to. Do you buy special high strength locking valve stems to make sure no one can break them off?
If I was that paranoid about my car, I couldn't drive it anywhere.
If I was that paranoid about my car, I couldn't drive it anywhere.
8/19/14, 04:46 PM
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You guys are way too paranoid. I bet there hasn't been 50 Mustangs in the last 10 years that this has happened to. Do you buy special high strength locking valve stems to make sure no one can break them off? If I was that paranoid about my car, I couldn't drive it anywhere.
If I was that paranoid about my car, I couldn't drive it anywhere.And with my luck, I'd be idiot #51.
8/19/14, 05:41 PM
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I wish I could stand by my car all day, all the time. But alas, reality sets and you realize when you go to a store, a car show (and walk around), dinner date with the wife, movie date with the wife, softball, or at work, yes, the car gets left "unattended". So plenty of opportunities where Murphy's Law could take effect.
Who goes around with a bucket of crap looking for a nice car to pour it in? The only cases I've ever heard of this happening where cases in which someone had a personal vendetta against someone.
On that note, I was under the impression this was strictly a Friday night cruising toy, not a toy you leave in parking lots unattended.
8/19/14, 05:51 PM
#34
35yrs of driving a dozen different cars & I've never had a locking cap and I've never had any problems. Maybe if someone is worried about someone contaminating their gas (very rare), then the cap may make sense. If trying to stop gas thieves, they like to just puncture the gas tanks with a screwdriver these days (very common now), so I think locking caps are about worthless.
8/19/14, 06:08 PM
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As a fellow 100% swirl-free paint owner and serious detailer, I worry infinitely about someone dinging/scratching/keying/brushing up against my car. Someone pouring crap in the gas tank is so far off my radar of worry it isn't even funny. In fact, I'd be more worried that they scratched the gas door or something during the act of vandalism, lol. Who goes around with a bucket of crap looking for a nice car to pour it in? The only cases I've ever heard of this happening where cases in which someone had a personal vendetta against someone. On that note, I was under the impression this was strictly a Friday night cruising toy, not a toy you leave in parking lots unattended.
As for the purpose of the car, it has 10k miles in 3 years. She gets driven on "God's perfect days" only.
. So yes, she will inevitably get "left alone" at one point or another for a given amount of time during the driving event purpose for which she was driven (as I mentioned earlier, taking wife out to dinner, movie etc). Being next to a car 100% of the time is unrealistic for any enthusiast.35yrs of driving a dozen different cars & I've never had a locking cap and I've never had any problems. Maybe if someone is worried about someone contaminating their gas (very rare), then the cap may make sense. If trying to stop gas thieves, they like to just puncture the gas tanks with a screwdriver these days (very common now), so I think locking caps are about worthless.
8/19/14, 06:25 PM
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guess I should read more of the owners manual.
8/19/14, 07:24 PM
#38
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THATS IT???
I've had mine for about 6ish weeks.... 2 of those weeks were holidays and not to mention i've been alternating weeks (carpooling) with my neighbor.
I have around 6,500KM already
this is exactly why i'm OK with driving it all year round. I'll scrap it and get a new one once this baby's done.
I've had mine for about 6ish weeks.... 2 of those weeks were holidays and not to mention i've been alternating weeks (carpooling) with my neighbor.
I have around 6,500KM already
this is exactly why i'm OK with driving it all year round. I'll scrap it and get a new one once this baby's done.
8/19/14, 07:49 PM
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THATS IT??? I've had mine for about 6ish weeks.... 2 of those weeks were holidays and not to mention i've been alternating weeks (carpooling) with my neighbor. I have around 6,500KM already this is exactly why i'm OK with driving it all year round. I'll scrap it and get a new one once this baby's done.
this is exactly why i'm OK with driving it all year round. I'll scrap it and get a new one once this baby's done.Last edited by FromZto5; 8/19/14 at 07:50 PM.
