Installing Pypes O/R X-Pipe - Stripped Cat bolt! NEED HELP PLEASE!
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Installing Pypes O/R X-Pipe - Stripped Cat bolt! NEED HELP PLEASE!
2014 Mustang GT / Manual
I hope someone can help me. So recently I installed a Steeda CAI with 93 octane performance Tune (using x4 Bama tuner), and love it! My car currently has the Corsa Sport Quad-Tip exhaust system, and I decided I wanted to install an X-Pipe with cat deletes. I went with the Pypes offraod x-pipe since it received really good reviews on Americanmuscle.com. Everything up to this point I've done myself, so I figured I could tackle installing an x-pipe and cat deletes. Unfortunately, it didn't take long for me to screw up:-(
Here's my issue. There are 2 15mm bolts holding the passenger cat to the exhaust manifold. One of those bolts has to be removed from inside the engine bay, and not from under the car. In order to do this, the instructions say to use a 2.5 foot socket extension. So I went out to autozone, bought an extension, and went at it. I used PB blaster, and the **** bolt would not budge. FINALLY, the socket wrench popped as if the bolt had come loose, but it turned out I STRIPPED the bolt!!
My question is, what can I do now? I tried using a 14mm socket, and that did not work. The bolt is now toast, and there is absolutely no way to get to it from under the car.
Am I stuck having to take this to a local exhaust shop?
Would a local exhaust shop be able to get the stripped bolt out?
Will a local exhaust shop even install offroad cats (don't know if this is a legal issue in Michigan?)
Is there any other way I can get this bolt loose when its buried 2ft within the engine bay?
Also note, I'm using standard jack stands so I do not have much clearance from under the car.
Thanks in advance for any tips, or advice you give me!
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If you have access to a welder you can weld something to the bolt that you can grab onto with a socket or wrench.
An exhaust shop likely won't remove cats in Michigan (or any state). Perhaps if you know the owners and do it under the table...
An exhaust shop likely won't remove cats in Michigan (or any state). Perhaps if you know the owners and do it under the table...
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ThatStangGuy (4/26/16)
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That 15mm nut against the firewall is a pitty. I forget what they are called but sears and other places makes special sockets for stripped nuts.
Bad thing is the bolts are pressed in from the backside and if they were a true bolts all you would have to do is cut the head off and be done.
Bad thing is the bolts are pressed in from the backside and if they were a true bolts all you would have to do is cut the head off and be done.
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ThatStangGuy (4/26/16)
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It's a pain to get to. You're likely not going to get help from a shop unless you know a guy and pay him cash lol. Either leave it in and out your factory midpipe back in or go at it with a bolt-out kit but the location will make it very difficult.
Me personally, I wouldn't like the Corsa with an off-road pipe so I'd put the stock unit back in.
Me personally, I wouldn't like the Corsa with an off-road pipe so I'd put the stock unit back in.
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It's a pain to get to. You're likely not going to get help from a shop unless you know a guy and pay him cash lol. Either leave it in and out your factory midpipe back in or go at it with a bolt-out kit but the location will make it very difficult.
Me personally, I wouldn't like the Corsa with an off-road pipe so I'd put the stock unit back in.
Me personally, I wouldn't like the Corsa with an off-road pipe so I'd put the stock unit back in.
I do know someone who owns a shop, and will contact them to see if they are willing to help me out.
I saw a video with someone who has the same setup, Corsa Sport Quad tip with pypes o/r x, and I thought his ride sounded good. I already had Bama write the tune to delete the 02 sensors, so I'll probably still install the cat deletes.
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The only plus side is that I started with this bolt/nut. So I didn't have to reassemble everything once I determined that I stripped it. I'm assuming the other three won't be as much of pain since you can kind of get to them from under the car.
#8
Got a cutoff wheel or dremel? Cut the biatch off. Then just go buy a new bolt. There is nothing special about the bolt so i would just go to a home depot and find something close to the size.
also where abouts in MI?
also where abouts in MI?
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Thanks, luckily the cat delete pipes come with new bolts, so if I can get a dremel in there to cut it off I will, but it's a tough angle. I don't think I'll be putting the old cats back on ever, unless I end up hating the sound with the O/R pipes. If I have to damage the old cats, than so be it, haha. I'm in the Brighton area, by 96 and 23. Are you in Michigan?
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Thanks, luckily the cat delete pipes come with new bolts, so if I can get a dremel in there to cut it off I will, but it's a tough angle. I don't think I'll be putting the old cats back on ever, unless I end up hating the sound with the O/R pipes. If I have to damage the old cats, than so be it, haha. I'm in the Brighton area, by 96 and 23. Are you in Michigan?
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#15
The trick with that nut is to use the 6 side socket and use a swivel. You will have to put painters tape or something similar to keep the swivel from moving until you get it situated on the nut.
With the swivel, you can get the socket completely on the head.
You may still be able to do it this way with the bolt removing socket. Either way I'd spray it with pb blaster or liquid wrench and let it soak no matter what you do.
With the swivel, you can get the socket completely on the head.
You may still be able to do it this way with the bolt removing socket. Either way I'd spray it with pb blaster or liquid wrench and let it soak no matter what you do.
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**UPDATE** NUT FINALLY REMOVED
Hey all, thanks to everyone for the tips. Today I went back to autozone and picked up a set of "Power Grab" sockets. I ended up using the 14mm socket and with multiple tries, finally got the nut to grip, and managed to budge the nut loose! I took a picture of the set I bought, and also a pic of the nut from hell. Hopefully this will help anyone else who runs into this issue down the road.
Highly recommend this set for anyone who runs into an issue with stripped exhaust bolts or nuts.
This is the nut that gave me so much trouble! I won! haha
I'm not done yet.I have a couple more questions. I got back under the car, and the other bolts are really tough to remove with a standard socket wrench. I think I am going to have to give in a buy some air tools. The other nut on the passenger side cat has NO clearance for any kind of socket wrench. What air tool should I used to remove that nut? I would need something thin like a standard hand wrench....but one I can hook up to an air compressor.
On top of that, the air compressor is in my friends garage. Will it be safe to drive my car to his house with only 1 nut holding the passenger side cat on? Or will I mess up the car, and start throwing codes?
Thanks again to everyone on here, you guys have been a lot of help so far!
Highly recommend this set for anyone who runs into an issue with stripped exhaust bolts or nuts.
This is the nut that gave me so much trouble! I won! haha
I'm not done yet.I have a couple more questions. I got back under the car, and the other bolts are really tough to remove with a standard socket wrench. I think I am going to have to give in a buy some air tools. The other nut on the passenger side cat has NO clearance for any kind of socket wrench. What air tool should I used to remove that nut? I would need something thin like a standard hand wrench....but one I can hook up to an air compressor.
On top of that, the air compressor is in my friends garage. Will it be safe to drive my car to his house with only 1 nut holding the passenger side cat on? Or will I mess up the car, and start throwing codes?
Thanks again to everyone on here, you guys have been a lot of help so far!
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Hey all, thanks to everyone for the tips. Today I went back to autozone and picked up a set of "Power Grab" sockets. I ended up using the 14mm socket and with multiple tries, finally got the nut to grip, and managed to budge the nut loose! I took a picture of the set I bought, and also a pic of the nut from hell. Hopefully this will help anyone else who runs into this issue down the road.
Attachment 178914
Highly recommend this set for anyone who runs into an issue with stripped exhaust bolts or nuts.
Attachment 178915
This is the nut that gave me so much trouble! I won! haha
I'm not done yet.I have a couple more questions. I got back under the car, and the other bolts are really tough to remove with a standard socket wrench. I think I am going to have to give in a buy some air tools. The other nut on the passenger side cat has NO clearance for any kind of socket wrench. What air tool should I used to remove that nut? I would need something thin like a standard hand wrench....but one I can hook up to an air compressor.
On top of that, the air compressor is in my friends garage. Will it be safe to drive my car to his house with only 1 nut holding the passenger side cat on? Or will I mess up the car, and start throwing codes?
Thanks again to everyone on here, you guys have been a lot of help so far!
Attachment 178914
Highly recommend this set for anyone who runs into an issue with stripped exhaust bolts or nuts.
Attachment 178915
This is the nut that gave me so much trouble! I won! haha
I'm not done yet.I have a couple more questions. I got back under the car, and the other bolts are really tough to remove with a standard socket wrench. I think I am going to have to give in a buy some air tools. The other nut on the passenger side cat has NO clearance for any kind of socket wrench. What air tool should I used to remove that nut? I would need something thin like a standard hand wrench....but one I can hook up to an air compressor.
On top of that, the air compressor is in my friends garage. Will it be safe to drive my car to his house with only 1 nut holding the passenger side cat on? Or will I mess up the car, and start throwing codes?
Thanks again to everyone on here, you guys have been a lot of help so far!
#19
Hey all, I have another update! After using a 90lb impact wrench, and still not being able to break the other cat bolts off, I threw in the towel. I ended up taking my car to a local muffler shop and had them break the other nuts free. They had to use a torch to heat them up and then remove them. FINALLY, today I installed the Pypes down pipes and x-pipe with no issues at all. After uploading the new Bama tune, I took the car out for a spin, and man the car sounds and runs great! The only thing I have left to do is to get rid of the over axle pipes. Both of my resonators were dented from the previous owner, and I'm sure that doesn't do anything to help my exhaust flow. I just ordered the Borla over-axles from CJ pony parts. Once I get the borla OA pipes installed, I think I will finally be done with my exhaust project!
I will take a video of the car once I have the Borla over axles installed and throw it one youtube. Just in case someone wants to hear/see the final product.
Thanks again to everyone for your help!
I will take a video of the car once I have the Borla over axles installed and throw it one youtube. Just in case someone wants to hear/see the final product.
Thanks again to everyone for your help!
Last edited by ThatStangGuy; 5/3/16 at 10:10 PM.