Ok I've had this car for less than 2 months and I have 1k miles on it now, I decided to tune it last week and it was awesome, I had 87 in the tank so I used the 87 tune, now I put 89 in the tank and changed it over to the 89 performance tune ( AM Bama tune ) and ever since I try to do the 0-60 test with this new tune, I get locked out of gears and it won't let me shift at all so I have to slow down, this has happened with 1 to 2 and 3 to 4. I called the Bama hotline and they laughed and told me their tune does nothing to the manual transmission so it's the crappy mt-82 in the car

Car drives perfect normal, but when I get on it and try to shift, it's like there's no gear there

some info on the car: 2013 mustang v6 manual performance pkg with CAI, Roush exhaust, and 89 performance bama tune.

Do you think this is just a random coincidence or...?

I'm gonna go back to stock and see if that'll help tomorrow, but I have no time really because of thanksgiving

 

A replacement shifter made by the MGW folks will make this problem go away!

I have a Bama-tuned V-6 with a CAI and a 3.73 rear-end, and adding the MGW turned my car into a whole new experience... no other $400 expense can do more for a MT-82 car.

Hope this helps!

PS the Bama team is correct, a Tune has no effect on the manual shifting experience...

 

+1 on the MGW and make sure to 'open palm' the 2-3 shift under hard acceleration. Let the springs in the shifter guide the shifter in the 3 gate, most people who are grabbing the **** are missing the gate because the engine torque is causing a slight deflection in the drivetrain under load.

Lots of Boss owners have installed MGWs and this did the trick. Not a cheap solution by any stretch, but it's a quality unit, really bulletproof build quality, and nothing but rave reviews when you google 'mustang mgw'. Watch the vids on their web site, very insightful.

 

Yea looks great and all but this is retarded when i just paid so much for a new sports car and it cant handle a little beating... ill try the open palm thing because i do grip it and try to dump it into second or third

 

Well if it has no effect, why is Dan saying otherwise in the 10-14 v6 sub forums. Go look

 

Another alternate solution is a new shifter bracket. I went with the Steeda bracket (about $80) and it does help quite a bit. I'll probably still swap out the whole shifter at some point but it essentially limited the problem for me about 99% of the time. I can almost always get real good power shifts from 1 to 2 and 2 to 3.

 

I hustled my car for a LONG while before I got my shifter and I rowed the heck out of it, just try some spirited driving before we go flat out..

 

Ford's programming messes with rev dropping on off throttle. If a tune changes that, it might affect manual shifting if a particular transmission is very sensitive to rev matching. In other words, if a driver "learned" how to work the throttle to avoid lock outs and then the tune changed rev holding, it COULD mean the driver would have to relearn for it. Or if the tune raised the rev limit a particular transmission might then be outside the RPM range for clean shifts. Just speculating.

 

Sounds like driver error to me.

 

I just checked it out, you just took it the wrong way. You have to be driving very slow for the skip shift to kick in, and that can be turned off entirely in the tune. What you are experiencing can probably be fixed with a MGW shifter.

 

Yeah well ford should ship a sports car with a good enough shifter already to with hold this light strain.
I mean i do it rarely but still.

 

I'd take the car to the dealer and have them try out the car. To me it sounds like your concern hasn't been qualified fully.

Make sure you don't have an issue with the tranny before you spend the 4 hrs + $300 replacing the entire shifter box with the MGW only to find out theres an issue internally. Worst thing to find that after you've taken it to the dealer with an aftermarket shifter installed. Just my 2 cents.

 

Yea ill diagnose it myself first and see and if not then im going to the dealer

 

mopar...the tune doesn't cause the lockout. You'll need to upgrade the shifter bracket and shifter to either a MGW or a Barton which will solve 90% of your problem. But the MT-82 can't have it's issues solved 100%. Basically when you get locked out of a gear, you unfortunately just have to have patience. The aftermarket bracket will help with solving the stock rubbery bracket moving around changing the position of the gates which causes most of the lockout. But there is also lockout that happens at the synchros. As you drive the car more, you'll recognize gate lockout vs. synchro lockout. If it's the case of the synchros, you just have to apply a small amount of pressure and wait for the synchros to lineup and eventually the gear slips into place.

Unfortunately if you drive the MT-82 hard, it's one of its annoying quirks. Which I hope Ford does fix in the 2015 model...hint....hint Ford.

 

Mopar,

The Bama team has provided you with the correct information. On the Manual Transmissions we actually don't play with any of the settings. If requested we can delete the Skip Shift feature, but that's about it!

Just to make sure that your tune is 100% shoot me a PM with your order number included. I'm going to have my head tuning specialist Mike Wilson look into your file and see if anything looks out of the ordinary.

I hope this helps, best of luck on your search to fix the issue. Our Bama Performance tuning specialists are here in the building Monday-Friday from 9AM-5:30PM EST and Saturday 9AM-5:30PM EST. You can hit them up directly at 888.226.9764 and they'll get you squared away!

-Dan

 

Thanks
I gave you guys a call and im ordering new tunes to see if the problem disappears. I appreciate it. Its just odd to lock me out of gears so we shall see what happens when i get the new tunes

 

I wonder if it is possible that with the added power the lockout is triggered by the trans. I had emailed Sean from AED about their tunes and he said he was able to remove the lock out from the trans altogether. I wonder if he was having the same issue with his tunes causing lock outs.

 

No issues with my GT, stock or modded.

 

no issues stock with mine.. I did want to use tunes for mine in the future so I am curious the findings.

 

Hmmmm that may be it!
I sent the request at 5pm eastern so i hope that i get the tunes soon.

The transmission was "cold" so i dont know if it matters. Also from a dead stop.
Never had issues before.