Hit a Stupid Deer Tonight
9/15/10, 10:40 AM
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Got my damage estimate this morning from my Ford Dealer’s body shop. Total was $2750, and that’s assuming they can repair the dent in the hood without replacing it. If they have to replace it, it’ll be an additional $1300 plus extra for prep/paint.
A couple of notes:
The A/C condenser got punctured by the fog light as it got pushed in. So, will need a new condenser, + AC system flush/fill, etc.
Body shop mgr said the hood was aluminum (!), and said they could heat it and try to work it back to original shape. He wasn’t sure it would work but said they could try it. He said it’d be a better way to go for minimizing re-paint and preserving originality. I never knew these things had aluminum hoods!
In summary: I wasn’t bothered before but now I am SO depressed. The word “Blend” appears many times in the estimate, which is another way of saying “use orbitals & compound the hell out of parts of your car not even originally damaged.” I feel sick now – this is EXACTLY why I bought a new car, was so I’d know what I have and would not have to look at body compound in door jambs and cracks and crevices. Suckage.
A couple of notes:
The A/C condenser got punctured by the fog light as it got pushed in. So, will need a new condenser, + AC system flush/fill, etc.
Body shop mgr said the hood was aluminum (!), and said they could heat it and try to work it back to original shape. He wasn’t sure it would work but said they could try it. He said it’d be a better way to go for minimizing re-paint and preserving originality. I never knew these things had aluminum hoods!
In summary: I wasn’t bothered before but now I am SO depressed. The word “Blend” appears many times in the estimate, which is another way of saying “use orbitals & compound the hell out of parts of your car not even originally damaged.” I feel sick now – this is EXACTLY why I bought a new car, was so I’d know what I have and would not have to look at body compound in door jambs and cracks and crevices. Suckage.
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9/15/10, 11:05 AM
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Got my damage estimate this morning from my Ford Dealer’s body shop. Total was $2750, and that’s assuming they can repair the dent in the hood without replacing it. If they have to replace it, it’ll be an additional $1300 plus extra for prep/paint.
A couple of notes:
The A/C condenser got punctured by the fog light as it got pushed in. So, will need a new condenser, + AC system flush/fill, etc.
Body shop mgr said the hood was aluminum (!), and said they could heat it and try to work it back to original shape. He wasn’t sure it would work but said they could try it. He said it’d be a better way to go for minimizing re-paint and preserving originality. I never knew these things had aluminum hoods!
In summary: I wasn’t bothered before but now I am SO depressed. The word “Blend” appears many times in the estimate, which is another way of saying “use orbitals & compound the hell out of parts of your car not even originally damaged.” I feel sick now – this is EXACTLY why I bought a new car, was so I’d know what I have and would not have to look at body compound in door jambs and cracks and crevices. Suckage.
A couple of notes:
The A/C condenser got punctured by the fog light as it got pushed in. So, will need a new condenser, + AC system flush/fill, etc.
Body shop mgr said the hood was aluminum (!), and said they could heat it and try to work it back to original shape. He wasn’t sure it would work but said they could try it. He said it’d be a better way to go for minimizing re-paint and preserving originality. I never knew these things had aluminum hoods!
In summary: I wasn’t bothered before but now I am SO depressed. The word “Blend” appears many times in the estimate, which is another way of saying “use orbitals & compound the hell out of parts of your car not even originally damaged.” I feel sick now – this is EXACTLY why I bought a new car, was so I’d know what I have and would not have to look at body compound in door jambs and cracks and crevices. Suckage.
Man dude, that is brutal.
But just be thankful your car didn't swirve off the road or the car rolled.
She'll look good as new once they fix her up.
Best of luck man.
9/15/10, 03:07 PM
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Got my damage estimate this morning from my Ford Dealer’s body shop. Total was $2750, and that’s assuming they can repair the dent in the hood without replacing it. If they have to replace it, it’ll be an additional $1300 plus extra for prep/paint.
A couple of notes:
The A/C condenser got punctured by the fog light as it got pushed in. So, will need a new condenser, + AC system flush/fill, etc.
Body shop mgr said the hood was aluminum (!), and said they could heat it and try to work it back to original shape. He wasn’t sure it would work but said they could try it. He said it’d be a better way to go for minimizing re-paint and preserving originality. I never knew these things had aluminum hoods!
In summary: I wasn’t bothered before but now I am SO depressed. The word “Blend” appears many times in the estimate, which is another way of saying “use orbitals & compound the hell out of parts of your car not even originally damaged.” I feel sick now – this is EXACTLY why I bought a new car, was so I’d know what I have and would not have to look at body compound in door jambs and cracks and crevices. Suckage.
A couple of notes:
The A/C condenser got punctured by the fog light as it got pushed in. So, will need a new condenser, + AC system flush/fill, etc.
Body shop mgr said the hood was aluminum (!), and said they could heat it and try to work it back to original shape. He wasn’t sure it would work but said they could try it. He said it’d be a better way to go for minimizing re-paint and preserving originality. I never knew these things had aluminum hoods!
In summary: I wasn’t bothered before but now I am SO depressed. The word “Blend” appears many times in the estimate, which is another way of saying “use orbitals & compound the hell out of parts of your car not even originally damaged.” I feel sick now – this is EXACTLY why I bought a new car, was so I’d know what I have and would not have to look at body compound in door jambs and cracks and crevices. Suckage.
Was that body shop appointed to you by the insurer ?
9/15/10, 04:01 PM
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Got my damage estimate this morning from my Ford Dealer’s body shop. Total was $2750, and that’s assuming they can repair the dent in the hood without replacing it. If they have to replace it, it’ll be an additional $1300 plus extra for prep/paint.
A couple of notes:
The A/C condenser got punctured by the fog light as it got pushed in. So, will need a new condenser, + AC system flush/fill, etc.
Body shop mgr said the hood was aluminum (!), and said they could heat it and try to work it back to original shape. He wasn’t sure it would work but said they could try it. He said it’d be a better way to go for minimizing re-paint and preserving originality. I never knew these things had aluminum hoods!
In summary: I wasn’t bothered before but now I am SO depressed. The word “Blend” appears many times in the estimate, which is another way of saying “use orbitals & compound the hell out of parts of your car not even originally damaged.” I feel sick now – this is EXACTLY why I bought a new car, was so I’d know what I have and would not have to look at body compound in door jambs and cracks and crevices. Suckage.
A couple of notes:
The A/C condenser got punctured by the fog light as it got pushed in. So, will need a new condenser, + AC system flush/fill, etc.
Body shop mgr said the hood was aluminum (!), and said they could heat it and try to work it back to original shape. He wasn’t sure it would work but said they could try it. He said it’d be a better way to go for minimizing re-paint and preserving originality. I never knew these things had aluminum hoods!
In summary: I wasn’t bothered before but now I am SO depressed. The word “Blend” appears many times in the estimate, which is another way of saying “use orbitals & compound the hell out of parts of your car not even originally damaged.” I feel sick now – this is EXACTLY why I bought a new car, was so I’d know what I have and would not have to look at body compound in door jambs and cracks and crevices. Suckage.
9/15/10, 04:14 PM
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$1300 for the hood? Man, I'd be investigating other hoods. That's crazy talk for an OEM one. Here:
http://www.latemodelrestoration.com/...ed-Underside-A
Do that, and pocket the money.
http://www.latemodelrestoration.com/...ed-Underside-A
Do that, and pocket the money.
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I initially thought along the same lines, but now I think blending in this case would refer to the panels adjacent to the newly replaced panels, which will require a full paint job since they will be new, unpainted parts.
9/15/10, 04:51 PM
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When an estimate says "Blend" on it, it takes the normal paint time for a panel and reduces it in half. This is to paint an adjacent panel. For example: They're replacing the fender, so they're likely blending the door. They'll disassemble the door (RI handle, belt molding, int trim panel, etc) and as they're painting the fender they'll also paint the front part of the door and pull the gun away and to the side, fading the new paint into the existing paint. This is the proper way to do it, aka an invisible repair. I can't tell you how often I see things on cars and people say "It's never been in an accident". I call B.S. and have them stand at a certain angle to see the paint difference between panels.
OP - if you have any questions, scan your estimate and post it and I'll be able to answer the questions for ya. Good luck.
9/15/10, 06:03 PM
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Exactly wrong. (sorry, not meaning to be a d!ck)
When an estimate says "Blend" on it, it takes the normal paint time for a panel and reduces it in half. This is to paint an adjacent panel. For example: They're replacing the fender, so they're likely blending the door. They'll disassemble the door (RI handle, belt molding, int trim panel, etc) and as they're painting the fender they'll also paint the front part of the door and pull the gun away and to the side, fading the new paint into the existing paint. This is the proper way to do it, aka an invisible repair. I can't tell you how often I see things on cars and people say "It's never been in an accident". I call B.S. and have them stand at a certain angle to see the paint difference between panels.
OP - if you have any questions, scan your estimate and post it and I'll be able to answer the questions for ya. Good luck.
When an estimate says "Blend" on it, it takes the normal paint time for a panel and reduces it in half. This is to paint an adjacent panel. For example: They're replacing the fender, so they're likely blending the door. They'll disassemble the door (RI handle, belt molding, int trim panel, etc) and as they're painting the fender they'll also paint the front part of the door and pull the gun away and to the side, fading the new paint into the existing paint. This is the proper way to do it, aka an invisible repair. I can't tell you how often I see things on cars and people say "It's never been in an accident". I call B.S. and have them stand at a certain angle to see the paint difference between panels.
OP - if you have any questions, scan your estimate and post it and I'll be able to answer the questions for ya. Good luck.
I've decided to go with my trusted guy near where I used to live, abt a 2-hour drive now. The estimator this morning was recommended by the insurer (A TLC-certified shop - "Total Liberty Care", LOL), whereas "my" guy is independent (is the shop owner too), and his 1st comment was REPLACE the hood, don't even try to fix it. I guess adding the hood to the equation brings it up closer to $4000!
But I will have peace of mind if this guy does it, despite the fact I won't have that "lifetime warranty on all repairs" I'd have if the insurance-partnered body shop did it. So am feeling better about it now b/c I know he won't treat the car like a Kenmore dishwasher (an appliance, which admittedly most cars are to most people).I am taking it in Sunday so he'll have it Monday morning. I told him to take his time & do it right.
The stripes are still TBD; I don't think I'll b able to afford his price (was $1500 prior to the deer incident, hasn't revised it yet). We shall see.....
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9/15/10, 06:44 PM
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When they repaired my key job, they had to pull two small dings out (by spot welding and pulling them - no dope) and repaint the r front fender and the rear quarter panel where some marks were. But in so doing they had to blend the paint from the fender to the r door, and blend the r qtr panel to the trunk lid. They did not blend onto the hood (and I can tell - most wouldn't).
However, clear coat cannot be blended in - they have to do an entire section. So they completely clear coated the fender, door, qtr panel (incl the section above the door along the roof), and trunk lid.
However, clear coat cannot be blended in - they have to do an entire section. So they completely clear coated the fender, door, qtr panel (incl the section above the door along the roof), and trunk lid.
9/15/10, 06:55 PM
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Let's face it - bodywork sucks all the way around! 
Unless, of course, that bodywork is adding something fun & not just repairing crap.
Unless, of course, that bodywork is adding something fun & not just repairing crap.
9/15/10, 07:24 PM
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Turned into blending all through the circled area on both sides trying to get it to match.....
It looked great in almost all situations, but, at a certain time of daylight, it just didn't match to my eye. Most people would never have noticed it, but I'm picky and knew it was there. And the fact that so much had been painted on, I was afraid that in a few years it would fade differently than the factory paint and look like the whole rearead had been demolished and fixed. I just couldn't live with it, and sold it.
Sorry to be such a downer, just giving some advice about what to look for when you get it back.
And I agree about the hood, put a new one on it.
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9/15/10, 07:39 PM
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Blending from the bumper into the quarter??? That's kind of weird. The bumper covers absorb pigment differently than the sheetmetal. You can take the gun directly from the cover onto the quarter and when it dries you can sometimes see different shades. Ever see a late 90's Camry? Some of the worst. On a cover you do a spray-out panel, no way I'd blend into the quarters. Blending from the quarter to the cover is mostly pointless except for maybe some tri-stage paints. Heck, my cover doesn't match my quarters right from the factory, Torch Red.
9/15/10, 08:03 PM
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Why not just paint the **** bumper & leave the rest alone? I still don't understand. You already HAD a visual break - at the seam. I think THAT would be less noticable than a "blend". On every car I've had that was "blended", you could see the "blend line" in just the right light, and it always worsened over time.
It's not like the dang plastic bumpers are all blended in with the rest of the car when the car is built. No, they get painted - and friggin' bolted to the car later on down the line, and they don't quite match, but nobody cares, at least I don't. But if there was a "blend line" going across my qtr panel I would be livid.
Jeeez this has me so pi$$ed and stressed now.
Over 37 friggin' thousand dollars down the drain because I was sick of buying used cars that carried secrets in their past and for once I'd have a car that would start in the same condition that I always keep my cars - like new. I am beginning to think it's better not knowing the secrets.
It's not like the dang plastic bumpers are all blended in with the rest of the car when the car is built. No, they get painted - and friggin' bolted to the car later on down the line, and they don't quite match, but nobody cares, at least I don't. But if there was a "blend line" going across my qtr panel I would be livid.
Jeeez this has me so pi$$ed and stressed now.
Over 37 friggin' thousand dollars down the drain because I was sick of buying used cars that carried secrets in their past and for once I'd have a car that would start in the same condition that I always keep my cars - like new. I am beginning to think it's better not knowing the secrets.
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9/15/10, 08:11 PM
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Look at this completely virginal seam between the plastic bumper skin and the steel rear fender, just as the Ford factory & Henry Ford intended it and built it. It's not easy to see in this photo (or live either), but the paint doesn't match perfectly. <gasp> But the seam between the 2 parts provides an adequate visual break. Why isn't this good enough for body shops? 
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9/15/10, 08:11 PM
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After thinking about it, it looks to me like you should keep all info and especially the pics of the damage for when you go to sell the car.
When carfax pops up an accident report, you want to be able to show the damage wasn't that bad. The problem is that someone's gonna see the report and want to deduct for it. You need to be able to show that this was the damage and what you are looking at is the repair. FWIW.
I feel so sorry for you Eric. It really sucks. But the car is still a great car. I think if it were me and I could figure out a way to do it, I'd maybe get a Steeda front bumper cover or a GT/CS and maybe an aftermarket hood. Then when its done instead of looking at it and trying to find flaws in it compared to the original, you might look at it and see how much better or different it looks than stock. Like an improvement kind of thing. I think that maybe if you don't try to at least do that you'll look and see teh flaw that you know is there.
When carfax pops up an accident report, you want to be able to show the damage wasn't that bad. The problem is that someone's gonna see the report and want to deduct for it. You need to be able to show that this was the damage and what you are looking at is the repair. FWIW.
I feel so sorry for you Eric. It really sucks. But the car is still a great car. I think if it were me and I could figure out a way to do it, I'd maybe get a Steeda front bumper cover or a GT/CS and maybe an aftermarket hood. Then when its done instead of looking at it and trying to find flaws in it compared to the original, you might look at it and see how much better or different it looks than stock. Like an improvement kind of thing. I think that maybe if you don't try to at least do that you'll look and see teh flaw that you know is there.
9/15/10, 08:21 PM
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You would think so, but white is an extremely hard color to match. Not to discourage you, but I sold a brand new Performance White GT/CS with less miles on it than yours because of the blending that was done trying to get a new rear bumper to match. This minor incident...
Turned into blending all through the circled area on both sides trying to get it to match.....
Sorry to be such a downer, just giving some advice about what to look for when you get it back.
And I agree about the hood, put a new one on it.
Turned into blending all through the circled area on both sides trying to get it to match.....
Sorry to be such a downer, just giving some advice about what to look for when you get it back.
And I agree about the hood, put a new one on it.
THAT seems like chasing your tail to me. Just sayin'.