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Old 7/29/08, 08:57 AM
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So far the pole is 40 to 3, but whichever comes out the victor will be the offical TMS name and anyone using the wrong one will be banned.



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I still like lovehandles better
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Originally Posted by Knight
So far the pole is 40 to 3, but whichever comes out the victor will be the offical TMS name and anyone using the wrong one will be banned.



Except the wording of the poll doesn't refer to the original area of discussion
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Shoulders or shoulderline:

The shoulderline basically runs the length of a car's upper body side where it folds over to meet the side windows, and its nature will reflect the essential character of the car.
The surface between the shoulderline and the beltline directly below the side windows is referred to, reasonably, as the shoulder: amusingly, it is therefore below the beltline. It shouldn't be confused with the similarily-positioned haunch.
Volvo's trademark shoulders have been developed into a marque identity characteristic, which emphasizes strength - and therefore safety - a long-held Volvo byword.


Haunch: Where the shoulder of the car gently swells out to accentuate the muscularity of the rear wheel. Haunch is the name given to the sculpting of the fender panel above the rear wheel arches, which alludes to skin tightly stretched over the well-toned muscles and sinews of the athlete, and therefore implies substantial power and performance.
It obviously makes most sense in rear wheel drive cars, and haunches have been an essential ingredient of the generic rear-wheel drive coupe form since before the term was coined. Haunches are most often associated with Jaguar, who have used this device as a key part of their form language on many models since the 1950's.
In performance-orientated versions of standard cars, more heavily sculpted wings with prominent haunches and extended wheel arch eyebrows will also accommodate the inevitable wider-profile wheels and tyres, which in turn adds a more purposeful stance - it all stacks up nicely!
Haunches are often referred to as 'rear haunches' which implies that there may be front haunches too: this is not the case - haunches are always over the rear wheels.
Also referred to as 'Hip'

There, it is settled...

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Old 7/30/08, 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by lowblustang00
I still like lovehandles better
your right, screw those other names and we'll just go with lovehandles!


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Except the wording of the poll doesn't refer to the original area of discussion
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Originally Posted by watchdevil
http://www.cardesignnews.com/site/ho...re4/item78126/

Shoulders or shoulderline:

The shoulderline basically runs the length of a car's upper body side where it folds over to meet the side windows, and its nature will reflect the essential character of the car.
The surface between the shoulderline and the beltline directly below the side windows is referred to, reasonably, as the shoulder: amusingly, it is therefore below the beltline. It shouldn't be confused with the similarily-positioned haunch.
Volvo's trademark shoulders have been developed into a marque identity characteristic, which emphasizes strength - and therefore safety - a long-held Volvo byword.


Haunch: Where the shoulder of the car gently swells out to accentuate the muscularity of the rear wheel. Haunch is the name given to the sculpting of the fender panel above the rear wheel arches, which alludes to skin tightly stretched over the well-toned muscles and sinews of the athlete, and therefore implies substantial power and performance.
It obviously makes most sense in rear wheel drive cars, and haunches have been an essential ingredient of the generic rear-wheel drive coupe form since before the term was coined. Haunches are most often associated with Jaguar, who have used this device as a key part of their form language on many models since the 1950's.
In performance-orientated versions of standard cars, more heavily sculpted wings with prominent haunches and extended wheel arch eyebrows will also accommodate the inevitable wider-profile wheels and tyres, which in turn adds a more purposeful stance - it all stacks up nicely!
Haunches are often referred to as 'rear haunches' which implies that there may be front haunches too: this is not the case - haunches are always over the rear wheels.
Also referred to as 'Hip'

There, it is settled...
So in the original discussion, the area referred to is 'shoulder'

Haunch or hip is lower and a different feature.
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Originally Posted by RCSignals
So in the original discussion, the area referred to is 'shoulder'

Haunch or hip is lower and a different feature.
The article gives pictured examples of the definitions. This one accompanied the description for haunch:





The Jaguar above has through shoulders front to back. At the rear over the wheel opening the shoulder raises or hops up into a haunch. Notice also that the quarter panel swells from the door to meet the wheel opening then tapers back in narrow to form the rear bumper and relief for the taillamp.


The 1965-66 Mustang really didn't have a haunched look. It was slab sided. It had shoulders with a hop-up under the quarter windows that created a raised blade that was higher than the decklid in the rear.

The 1967-68 became more aggressive while retaining a hop-up in it's shoulder line in the rear quarter windows that transitioned into a haunched look with bladed rear quarters panels with wide planes inside on either side of the full fastback roofline that created a raised decklid section all the back to the back.

The 1969-70 Mustang went away from bladed rear quarter shoulders and went for a smooth rolled haunch look with a soft hop-up that starts under the quater windows with no defined kink.

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the haunch is the gently swelling out of the fender panel above the rear wheel arches. The wheel arches are the openings for the wheels. In other words the haunch is the bulging out of the quarter panel above the wheel arch. Not to be confused with flare.

The shoulder is higher on the panel and the 'hop up' is part of the shoulder.
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