2010-2014 Mustang Information on The S197 {GenII}

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Old 3/21/11 | 10:18 AM
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headlight seals shot :(

Gonna have to have these warranted
This is on the INSIDE.
This car was in storage all winter......

anyone else have this issue?????


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Old 3/21/11 | 11:05 AM
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that sucks man,

I took mine out for a spin yesterday for the first time since I got it in December, and no signs of condensation in the headlights

definatly get that fixed! That would annoy the crap out of me
Old 3/21/11 | 11:59 AM
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I took mine for a spin last week and no issues, but your post is not making me very comfortable.
Old 3/21/11 | 12:08 PM
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First I've seen of it.

On the plus side, great looking paint!
Old 3/21/11 | 12:35 PM
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My V-6 does the same on a cold drive at night, but clear up by morning.
Old 3/21/11 | 12:59 PM
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Nope mine is fine when i got it out Sat. Ronn
Old 3/21/11 | 01:10 PM
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How could both headlight seals on my Mustang and Shaun's be bad? I could see one, but not both
Old 3/21/11 | 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by David Young
How could both headlight seals on my Mustang and Shaun's be bad? I could see one, but not both
bad run of parts, similar enviromental exposures, there a bunch of possibilities but your absolutly right that the probablity is low....
Old 3/21/11 | 01:31 PM
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First I've seen of it.

On the plus side, great looking paint!
www.autolavish.com They rock and take great care of my baby
Worth every penny.
Old 3/21/11 | 01:56 PM
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Have them warrantied if possible; however, the dealer may say this is 'normal.'

If worse comes to worst, take them out and pull out all the bulbs and anything removable, throw them in the oven for a few minutes (12 minutes @ 225 degrees F)... the heat MAY evaporate the moisture from the inside...

Then buy some rubber butyl tape and put it around edges after you're done, then throw it back in the oven for a a few more minutes to let the butyl get tacky.
Old 3/21/11 | 02:44 PM
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Shaun, was your car stored in a heated garage ! Took mine out yesterday, and both HID headlights were fine. Temp wise, i keep my garage to about 70 with no humidity whatsoever.
I would definately brings this to your dealership's attention.
Old 3/21/11 | 03:30 PM
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My 06 did that on one headlight. Always annoyed me but i never fixed it. Jeez I hope I don't have the same problem with the 11.

On a new car I would take it to the dealership but I found this a little while back:

http://www.americanmuscle.com/headli...on-remedy.html
Old 3/21/11 | 06:12 PM
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I'd think that an hour or so with the lights lit and it should heat up and dry out.
Old 3/21/11 | 06:20 PM
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First I've seen it on the new gen cars, but was a common problem on SN95 cars that was a warranty fix; I had a 03 GT and 04 Mach 1 that had this problem, both cars were fixed under warranty no problem, at two different dealers. Replaced the headlight assemblies and no more problem.
Old 3/21/11 | 07:33 PM
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Wow, that's odd. Hope the dealer covers this. Did it go away once you turned the headlamps on?
Old 3/21/11 | 07:38 PM
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I thought most headlamp housings were vented. I bet it goes away if you turn the lights on and let them warm up.
Old 3/21/11 | 09:26 PM
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i just pulled mine out the other day and my headlights are fine, i dont have HIDs but i am in the north with the same temps as detriot
Old 3/21/11 | 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by 07S197
I thought most headlamp housings were vented. I bet it goes away if you turn the lights on and let them warm up.
Most are. The Corvette owner's manual actually covers this in detail as being normal.

if there is a rapid temp change or very humid air, you might see some of this.

I'm tempted to see if this is covered in our manual.
Old 3/21/11 | 10:39 PM
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I'm back, that was quick. Page 59 of the 2011 owners manual.

"Lamp assembly condensation
Exterior lamps are vented to accommodate normal changes in pressure. Condensation can be a natural by-product of this design. When moist air enters the lamp assembly through the vents, there is a possibility that condensation can occur when the temperature is cold. When normal condensation occurs, a thin film of mist can form on interior of the lens. The thin mist eventually clears and exits through the vents during normal operation. Clearing time may take as long as 48 hours under dry weather conditions."
Old 3/21/11 | 11:59 PM
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I don't know about manufacturing techniques of these headlights, but with the right conditions, they really do not need to have the seals broken to have condensation in them. If when they were made and sealed in the first place, the air sealed in them had a high enough dewpoint then every time the temperature gets below a certain point, they could be prone to fog up. Air holds more water in it when it is warm than when it is cold, so even relatively dry air from summer months could have a dewpoint higher than the temperature that your lights got to. In order to make sure that would not happen, the air in the headlights should be pretty dry first before being sealed in to the headlights. The annoying part of it is that if the seals are still intact, then the air inside must have enough humidity in it to do this again when the temp falls below a certain point. If there is a way for air to vent, then you would also be subject to this though. Either way with heat, it will evaporate again.



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