2010-2014 Mustang Information on The S197 {GenII}

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Old Jan 31, 2014 | 06:53 PM
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Old Jan 31, 2014 | 07:03 PM
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I can't believe this thread is 9 pages long already.
Old Jan 31, 2014 | 07:04 PM
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I can't believe this thread is 9 pages long already.
It's 11 pages on my app
Old Jan 31, 2014 | 07:06 PM
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lmao...This thread is ridiculous!
Old Jan 31, 2014 | 07:14 PM
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lmao...This thread is ridiculous!
Lmao.
Old Jan 31, 2014 | 07:36 PM
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I use 15w50 and never change it.
Old Jan 31, 2014 | 07:40 PM
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Old Jan 31, 2014 | 07:56 PM
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I'm still waiting for someone to give me a logical explanation as to why 5W 20 is the go too choice oil when Ford recommends 5W 50 for their 5.0 ,302 engine. If 5W 20 flows so much better for the newer tight engine specs then why is Ford recommending 5W 50 oil? That's really thick oil for all those tight specs that everybody talks about! So again, if Ford recommends this thick a$$ oil 50 weight with the 5.0 and also recommends a 20 weight with the same 5.0 302 engine, then why would 5W 30 weight not work just as well?

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Old Jan 31, 2014 | 07:59 PM
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Old Jan 31, 2014 | 08:07 PM
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Yes, but let's be honest here. Nobody here knows the answer to my posted question. The car manufactures didn't want to get charged with fines by not keeping CAFE regulations so they decided to recommend 5W 20 so they would comply. Its that simple. 5W 20 is not horrible but 5W 30 will provide the perfect lubrication for our engines. Use 5W 30 weight and a base IV fully synthetic oil and you can beat the ball snot out of the engine and the oil will not shear much and keep your engine in great shape

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Old Jan 31, 2014 | 08:10 PM
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You are more then likely correct. I also doubt that Ford could very much tell the difference in an engine failure if you used 5w30 and it would not be the cause of the issue anyway. Not sure what I am going to use next time I change the oil but I wouldn't have a problem putting 5W30 in it if the same engine in a track pack car had 5W50.
Old Jan 31, 2014 | 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by 88lx50
You are more then likely correct. I also doubt that Ford could very much tell the difference in an engine failure if you used 5w30 and it would not be the cause of the issue anyway. Not sure what I am going to use next time I change the oil but I wouldn't have a problem putting 5W30 in it if the same engine in a track pack car had 5W50.
For real because remember the GT trac pac is the same as a GT just with some upgraded suspension parts but its 302 coyote engine is identical. Do 5W 30 bro. Its all good.
Old Jan 31, 2014 | 09:12 PM
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So why does two Ford mustang 5.0's have different oil weight recommendations when they are the same identical engine? How can you say mustang A is great for 5W50 weight. Yet mustang B is great for 5W 20 weight so you need too use that because its printed on the cap. Yet both A and B have the same identical engine components. So what does your 40 years of Ford experience give to a logical explanation too this?
To start with the 11-12 5.0 is not the same as the 13-14 5.0. Unless the people in this debate are engineers for Ford and designed the 5.0L, we really should not think we know more than them. Everyone can run whatever oil they want but when your engine has an issue don't blame Ford.
Old Jan 31, 2014 | 09:15 PM
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Changing the oil at 5,000 is the best choice, and no more than 5000 thereafter. But you really need to run 5W-20 oil if that is what is on the cap, you will find that many people say it dont matter, and they are 100% incorrect. These are not push rod engines, the timing components MUST have the correct oil used. Timing can be changed with the incorrect wait of oil. People are going to say I am crazy, but trust me with over 40 years of ford experience. Hope this helps.
I won't call you crazy. But everything you said is completely inaccurate. 5000 miles in between changes is WAY to soon if you are using any good quality synthetic oil. Also I am fully aware of the technology you speak of. Ti-Vtc uses oil pressure to activate certain things on the rockers. Oil pressure can vary with different weights. But that's were your concept takes a left. Because the coyote can run flawlessly on 20 weight or 50 weight PER ford. Therefore they have done whatever adjustments necessary to allow for this option.

I think reading the thread will do you some good. That 40 yrs experience is not going to help you with 2013 tech. Ford stamped 5-20 on the cap of the mainstream gt for better fuel and emissions. It saved them millions. But 5-30 is a better choice for motor protection.
Old Jan 31, 2014 | 09:18 PM
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Go by the Oil Life Monitor, which takes into account factors like this. 7,500 is not too many miles at all, depending on the usage. Here's a couple oil analysis I had done on my car: https://themustangsource.com/f726/1s...5/#post6736762

An OIL Life monitor is put in for people who have not a clue on maintenance, they should not be used as they do not measure the oil viscosity.
Old Jan 31, 2014 | 09:22 PM
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Incorrect - Honda has gone to 0W-20, as has Toyota apparently. Can only imagine how up in arms you guys would be if Ford went there http://mobile.vehicleservicepros.com...ic-oil-changes And yes, Ford is in the business of making money - you do that by not having motors fail just out of warranty.
Lol. No one said that with 5-20 the motor will fail the day after the warrantys up. I'd agree that if that happened ford would not be very successful. But that doesn't take away from the fact that 5-30 is a more universal oil that will protect better than 5-20, period. Mustang and ford aside these are the traits of these oils. 20 better for the world, 30 better for the motor. Is the difference measurable? Barely. 1/16th of a mpg was saved going to 20 weight. I'd imagine that similarly minuscule differences would be the case with motor life.

Ford has been nice enough to create such a great motor that it can safely handle a range of oil weights.

Since I drive so little, my personal choice is to have "more" protection and "worse" economy.
Old Jan 31, 2014 | 09:24 PM
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You are so dense. Big ol fat women... nom nom nom
Jeez has your ban been lifted already.....save your trolling for your husband.
Old Jan 31, 2014 | 09:27 PM
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Im sure this thread will never end.
K thanks bye. Stop swinging in just to inflate your post count.
Old Jan 31, 2014 | 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by 2011 Kona Blue
Lmao. Its a good thread for people too learn and hear different views.
What the trolls don't get is that

A) this is a FORUM which is used to learn regardless of how repetitive it is. If you're tired of the topic, there are THOUSANDS of other threads to visit.

B) this is probably one of the best oil threads I've seen. Why? Because aside from the unproductive childish comments here and there, it houses a culmination of the best opinions, data, logic, analysis, and discussion as opposed to digging all around at dozens of threads that mostly consist of childish and unproductive people. Fortunately we have been able to keep most of that out. And hopefully a mod will swing in soon and see all the good info and put a stop to all the other OFF TOPIC bs.
Old Jan 31, 2014 | 09:36 PM
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Lol... I already called it back when this was on page 1, 4 posts in. As others have stated, all this info is same regurgitated info that's been discussed over and over again. Any oil thread posted by someone with less than 100 posts should be closed by the mods and links given to existing oil threads.
Z, usually you and I see eye to eye. But I don't understand why you are so anti oil threads? Who cares and how does it hurt you. There are tons of threads I have no interest in or ones that I feel are redundant. Do you know what I do? I scroll past them. Because despite what you may think, there is good info here that is not regurgitated.



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