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Old Aug 10, 2010 | 11:46 AM
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Ford factory tune?

Does or will ford offer a tune to the 2011gt that won't void the warranty? I would not mind getting a tune to improve performance a bit but not at the risk of voiding any warranty. If they do any estimates on what it would cost?
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Old Aug 10, 2010 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Huskernation
Does or will ford offer a tune to the 2011gt that won't void the warranty? I would not mind getting a tune to improve performance a bit but not at the risk of voiding any warranty. If they do any estimates on what it would cost?
Yes, Ford Racing typically releases a minimum pack containing a filter and a tuner. This kit for the 2010 Mustang GT MSRP'd at $410.
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Old Aug 10, 2010 | 12:03 PM
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thanks for the info
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Old Aug 10, 2010 | 12:03 PM
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I'm wondering wth is taking FRPP so long. I want their kit!
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Old Aug 10, 2010 | 12:07 PM
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9hp and 4flb is not much I wonder if it's worth it?
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Old Aug 10, 2010 | 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Huskernation
9hp and 4flb is not much I wonder if it's worth it?
hopefully it will be more for the 5.0. But it also yields "significantly improved throttle response and performance feel"
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Old Aug 10, 2010 | 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by stangfoeva
hopefully it will be more for the 5.0. But it also yields "significantly improved throttle response and performance feel"
That's true and the throttle response would be nice. I am guessing this does not affect your warranty if done at a dealer?
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Old Aug 10, 2010 | 12:16 PM
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I am guessing this does not affect your warranty if done at a dealer?
This should not affect your warranty so long as you're using their tune/tuner, regardless of where it's actually installed.

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Old Aug 10, 2010 | 12:55 PM
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I'm wondering wth is taking FRPP so long. I want their kit!

What would be the difference between the FRPP kit and the one listed above?

Would they both be covered in the warranty?
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Old Aug 10, 2010 | 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Huskernation
9hp and 4flb is not much I wonder if it's worth it?
About as much gain as just changing to a aftermarket air intake (minus crazy tune), just not covered under warranty.

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Old Aug 10, 2010 | 01:34 PM
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What would be the difference between the FRPP kit and the one listed above?

Would they both be covered in the warranty?
The FRPP is listed above (that is what they are referring to, just not available yet for a 2011 ) and is covered under warranty if they are installed by a Ford Racing dealer (usually your Ford dealer but others exist). When you order, they need your VIN number for the calibration tool beforehand.

"Unlike our competitors, all Ford Racing Power Upgrade Packages are 50 state emissions legal and eligible for limited warranty when installed by a Ford or Lincoln-Mercury Dealer"

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Old Aug 10, 2010 | 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by 2011_STANG_GT
What would be the difference between the FRPP kit and the one listed above?

Would they both be covered in the warranty?
See below.

Originally Posted by mustang1979
The FRPP is listed above (that is what they are referring to, just not available yet for a 2011 ) and is covered under warranty if they are installed by a Ford Racing dealer (usually your Ford dealer but others exist). When you order, they need your VIN number for the calibration tool beforehand.

"Unlike our competitors, all Ford Racing Power Upgrade Packages are 50 state emissions legal and eligible for limited warranty when installed by a Ford or Lincoln-Mercury Dealer"
This.
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Old Aug 10, 2010 | 01:58 PM
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Legally, just the use of aftermarket parts can't void the warranty unless it can be proved that the part caused the damage.

So, if you installed the aftermarket tune and a engine bearing went bad, it would be very hard for Ford to say the tune caused the bearing to go bad and for them to prove it. Probably would have to get a lawyer involved to get Ford to pony up but legally they would be obligated to.

This falls under the "Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act" and the Federal Trade Commission.
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Old Aug 10, 2010 | 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Ltngdrvr
Legally, just the use of aftermarket parts can't void the warranty unless it can be proved that the part caused the damage.

So, if you installed the aftermarket tune and a engine bearing went bad, it would be very hard for Ford to say the tune caused the bearing to go bad and for them to prove it. Probably would have to get a lawyer involved to get Ford to pony up but legally they would be obligated to.

This falls under the "Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act" and the Federal Trade Commission.
While true, its too much work. I just want plug n play performance & hassle free warranty work. I think getting FRPP stuff installed by the dealer is the safest bet. May not be the fastest, but it sure is the best combination IMO
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Old Aug 10, 2010 | 02:12 PM
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While true, its too much work. I just want plug n play performance & hassle free warranty work. I think getting FRPP stuff installed by the dealer is the safest bet. May not be the fastest, but it sure is the best combination IMO
I am in agreeance with you about doing the dealer install. I plan on keeping my vehicle for a very long time and considering this upgrade myself, and just dont feel like going through the hassle of ever having to come across an issue with other aftermarket items. Maybe down the road, but Im just enjoying my ride too much right now.

I just feel that anytime I have done aftermarket upgrades, its a never ending battle to even out things. To each their own, just going by personal preference. For my 2010, put axleback exhausts on, had the Roush CAI intake on for a few minutes, didnt like it, returned it and just put the K&N/Ford performance filter in, that is all for now.

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Old Aug 10, 2010 | 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by stangfoeva
While true, its too much work. I just want plug n play performance & hassle free warranty work. I think getting FRPP stuff installed by the dealer is the safest bet. May not be the fastest, but it sure is the best combination IMO
That's exactly what I am looking to do. I paid $650 to up the 3yr/36k bumper to bumper to 5yr/60k and I don't want to void that.
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Old Aug 10, 2010 | 02:20 PM
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I am in agreeance with you about doing the dealer install. I plan on keeping my vehicle for a very long time and considering this upgrade myself, and just dont feel like going through the hassle of ever having to come across an issue with other aftermarket items. Maybe down the road, but Im just enjoying my ride too much right now.

I just feel that anytime I have done aftermarket upgrades, its a never ending battle to even out things. To each their own, just going by personal preference. For my 2010, put axleback exhausts on, had the Roush CAI intake on for a few minutes, didnt like it, returned it and just put the K&N/Ford performance filter in, that is all for now.
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That's exactly what I am looking to do. I paid $650 to up the 3yr/36k bumper to bumper to 5yr/60k and I don't want to void that.
with both of you guys. Plus FRPP offers some great stuff. Especially the super charger packages
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Old Aug 10, 2010 | 03:44 PM
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That's true and the throttle response would be nice. I am guessing this does not affect your warranty if done at a dealer?
The main advantage to the tune IMO is not so much the meager HP gains but the instant throttle response and general over-all feel to the car. Pulls harder to the red line and above and lack of RPM hang-ups between gear changes makes for a more pleasant experience. Certainly a worth-while mod. At least on my '06. Haven't done the new one yet.

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This should not affect your warranty so long as you're using their tune/tuner, regardless of there it's actually installed.
Actually, up here, FRPP parts are not warrantied at all, whether dealer intalled or not. Tread carefully. The small print says "limited warranty". Does that mean the part only or the drive-train? My dealer is an SVT dealer and will sell you the Steeda CAI and tune at the parts counter, but he expects you to remove it prior to bringing it in for a warranty work because the service people don't know you bought one from them. Yeah, right. And remember, you can't remove the Ford tune. It's in there and they know. This is the best way to handle it: Buy an after-market hand-held programmer and CAI elswhere and remove the tune/CAI when going to the dealer. Not hard to do, and is the safest advice. Afterall, Ford is going to decide whether the tune/CAI package caused the engine damage or not.


Happy motoring guys,

Cheers.
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Old Aug 10, 2010 | 03:48 PM
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The main advantage to the tune IMO is not so much the meager HP gains but the instant throttle response and general over-all feel to the car. Pulls harder to the red line and above and lack of RPM hang-ups between gear changes makes for a more pleasant experience. Certainly a worth-while mod. At least on my '06. Haven't done the new one yet.



Actually, up here, FRPP parts are not warrantied at all, whether dealer intalled or not. Tread carefully. The small print says "limited warranty". Does that mean the part only or the drive-train? My dealer is an SVT dealer and will sell you the Steeda CAI and tune at the parts counter, but he expects you to remove it prior to bringing it in for a warranty work because the service people don't know you bought one from them. Yeah, right. And remember, you can't remove the Ford tune. It's in there and they know. This is the best way to handle it: Buy an after-market hand-held programmer and CAI elswhere and remove the tune/CAI when going to the dealer. Not hard to do, and is the safest advice. Afterall, Ford is going to decide whether the tune/CAI package caused the engine damage or not.


Happy motoring guys,

Cheers.

I'm sure this is what my dealer will pull as well.. This is why I'm so hesitent to doing ANYTHING to my car. Bleh!
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Old Aug 10, 2010 | 03:58 PM
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This is why I'm going with Steeda CAI and tune. They work hand in hand with Ford -(at least thats what they imply). It may not be the most aggresive tune, but probably a lot more than the FRPP.
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