2010-2014 Mustang Information on The S197 {GenII}

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Old Feb 22, 2013 | 05:38 PM
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I have skppied a bunch of the posts in this thread..


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want that sports car feel.. drive a stick
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Old Feb 22, 2013 | 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by 2011 Kona Blue

Maybe it was the automatic that I tested the car in. I didn't test drive a manual.
Loading with 4000 RPM's will tend to make it launch harder.
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Old Feb 22, 2013 | 05:41 PM
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Loading with 4000 RPM's will tend to make it launch harder.
Well I didn't do that with the salesman in the car. Lol. But I can see your point
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Old Feb 22, 2013 | 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Getportfolio
You can get "approximately" 115 more horses for roughly 8 grand more. (Who cares about the interest during the term of the loan, its a V8!) "caveman growl"

As an added bonus Ford will even throw in boring rims, quiet exhaust, plastic steering wheel, and cloth seats.

This thread went nowhere real fast
you forgot torq! and the better driveline and all the extra goodies..
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Old Feb 22, 2013 | 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by 2011 Kona Blue
It's a 911 twin turbo, AWD 400 HP Porsche. Maybe it just feels faster when in reality its not. But whatever that feeling was that's what I was hoping to experience the same or similar with the 5.0 . It's not a matter of me liking my v6 better. It was the 5.0 I test drove did not live up to what I thought it should be for 37k. I felt that my tuned v6 pulled almost as hard as the 5.0 tested with a much better throttle response to boot. For 37k and a 420 HP car I wanted to be scared $hitless and feel that I need to trade my v6 right now and can't live without a 5.0. That model left me feeling like a night at the stripe bar. Fun, but is that it and I was expecting more.
Yes turbo and AWD cars tend to feel a lot faster than they are. I think its because all the torque tends to hit at once when the turbo spools. whereas naturally aspirated engines are relatively more of a gradual buildup.
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Old Feb 22, 2013 | 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by 2011 Kona Blue
Well I didn't do that with the salesman in the car. Lol. But I can see your point
I'll bet the nannies were on. Turn them off and you would be in trouble.
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Old Feb 22, 2013 | 06:07 PM
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also the ride in a porsche is far more tight and low slung. Thats what makes hondas feel like speed racers... the tight ride.
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Old Feb 22, 2013 | 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 2011 Kona Blue
One would need around $2,500 additional dollars to spend on aftermarket mods to make that 5.0 awesome like I was thinking it was going to be. At minimum a performance tuner, lower gears, CAI, exhaust system, headers and off road x pipe would have to go on if I was ever in the future thinking of buying a 5.0.
Lol or just a tune... Get off the gears man. Tons of people put up great times with the 3:15 auto.
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Old Feb 22, 2013 | 07:43 PM
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A 5.0 with 3.15s does feel kinda slow, but line it up with the V6 and it would walk away. My 2011 came with 3.15s, made a world of difference once I put in the 3.73s. It has nothing to do with the car being that much faster, but the way the gear makes the car feel.

EDIT: And a tune would help alot as well, especially a hybrid tune that focuses on low end torque.

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Old Feb 22, 2013 | 07:52 PM
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it's a 302 guys, not a 427. of course torque is missing.

First time I drove a new 5.0 I was seriously disappointed (lack of torque) but while it didn't feel like i was getting pinned to the seat, the speedometer said otherwise.
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Old Feb 22, 2013 | 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Planeswalker
A 5.0 with 3.15s does feel kinda slow, but line it up with the V6 and it would walk away. My 2011 came with 3.15s, made a world of difference once I put in the 3.73s. It has nothing to do with the car being that much faster, but the way the gear makes the car feel.

EDIT: And a tune would help alot as well, especially a hybrid tune that focuses on low end torque.
Please correct me if I'm wrong but a 3:73 gear is going to make the car considerable faster because you climb into your power band much faster. Your gonna hit your max torque and HP faster than someone with 3:15 or 3:31 gears. So in turn it absolutely reduces the time it takes one to accelerate 0-60, 1/4 mile or 100 mph. The faster your hit your power band the faster you will accelerate. So gearing is very important . The hybrid tune is wicked fast because it combines the street and race tune together. You have full low torque power, mid power and high end power of the race tune. Huge difference.

When I'm done with my mods I want to find someone with a base 5.0 automatic or manual with 3:15 and pull one or two races and see how well I do. The mods should all be completed by the end of march. I will have the following:

91 Hybrid tune
Airraid CAI
Flowmaster axle back exhaust
One Piece Aluminum driveshaft from AM
3:73 Ford racing gears
BBK long tube headers
Off road X pipe, cats will be gone.

With this setup I believe I think its possible to beat 0-60 and 1/4 mile a factory stock 5.0 that has 3:15 gears. If I still loose it will be maybe by a car length or less.

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Old Feb 22, 2013 | 08:39 PM
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If you don't live to far away I will be happy to race you after your mods.
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Old Feb 22, 2013 | 09:01 PM
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If you don't live to far away I will be happy to race you after your mods.
What state are you in?
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Old Feb 22, 2013 | 09:32 PM
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Old Feb 22, 2013 | 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by 2011 Kona Blue

I was off the ramp and already merged onto the level highway by the time I floored it. Several times did I floor it and not a huge wow factor. I know its against the mustang code to speak less of the v8 and death to anyone who claims less of the vehicle. Its a great car, huge potential for HP gains, but if someone is looking for performance out of there 5.0, don't get 3:15 gears and buy a performance tuner. Its was very disappointing. I have no reserve a 3k modded 11 plus sixer will walk the dog over a factory stock 5.0 with the standard 3:15 gears.
I know I'm late to this thread , but you couldn't be more wrong lol
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Old Feb 22, 2013 | 09:46 PM
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I know I'm late to this thread , but you couldn't be more wrong lol
I agree... go to youtube and watch some videos.. a butt dyno means little
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Old Feb 22, 2013 | 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by 2011 Kona Blue

Please correct me if I'm wrong but a 3:73 gear is going to make the car considerable faster because you climb into your power band much faster. Your gonna hit your max torque and HP faster than someone with 3:15 or 3:31 gears. So in turn it absolutely reduces the time it takes one to accelerate 0-60, 1/4 mile or 100 mph. The faster your hit your power band the faster you will accelerate. So gearing is very important . The hybrid tune is wicked fast because it combines the street and race tune together. You have full low torque power, mid power and high end power of the race tune. Huge difference.

When I'm done with my mods I want to find someone with a base 5.0 automatic or manual with 3:15 and pull one or two races and see how well I do. The mods should all be completed by the end of march. I will have the following:

91 Hybrid tune
Airraid CAI
Flowmaster axle back exhaust
One Piece Aluminum driveshaft from AM
3:73 Ford racing gears
BBK long tube headers
Off road X pipe, cats will be gone.

With this setup I believe I think its possible to beat 0-60 and 1/4 mile a factory stock 5.0 that has 3:15 gears. If I still loose it will be maybe by a car length or less.
Again lol you may love you 6, which is awesome because I love mine too. But don't pretend your sixxer with no blower or turbo can walk a v8, especially the new ones. Put that 5.0 in someone's hands who knows how to act with its stock shift points and its a done deal lol
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Old Feb 22, 2013 | 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by atrav83

Again lol you may love you 6, which is awesome because I love mine too. But don't pretend your sixxer with no blower or turbo can walk a v8, especially the new ones. Put that 5.0 in someone's hands who knows how to act with its stock shift points and its a done deal lol
I agree bolt ons and gears won't drop you into the 12's.
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Old Feb 23, 2013 | 02:36 AM
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This thread because useless 2 pages ago.
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Old Feb 23, 2013 | 08:32 AM
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This thread because useless 2 pages ago.
This thread because nobody make sense because useless now I think. Lol
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