2010-2014 Mustang Information on The S197 {GenII}

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Old Mar 14, 2010 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Ltngdrvr
Except that the 4.6 was so under-developed as a performance platform when it was first put in a Mustang and the new 5.0 is clearly more toward the high end of its developement from the start.
Yes, by today's standards the Coyote is very "high-feature" and high-performance. But there are probably expensive technologies that no one is even considering today that will come down in price that will be affordable 10-15 years from now.
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Old Mar 14, 2010 | 12:07 PM
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hats off to the fosix. you shall be missed
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Old Mar 14, 2010 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by cdynaco
Ford has a long history of V8's dating back to the 1932 Flathead in the Model B. When they rolled out the 4.6L/281 in 1991 in the Lincoln Town Car (no it's NOT a truck engine! ) it later became the foundation for the best selling truck in America, and finally America's favorite and longest running muscle car.

Like Lotus founder Colin Chapman's thesis that "the area above the cylinder head gasket is the most important", Ford wasn't satisfied with a simple 2V design for the 4.6 engine. In addition to tuning the 2V for Mustang applications, they ramped up high output NA versions with the conventional 4V DOHC's.

But in time, Ford had a better idea and it was the 3V SOHC that showed their engineering prowess yet again. Much improved over the 2V (initially in the low 200HP range peaking at 260 [04 Mustang]), with less weight and about half the rotational mass & drag from 4 cams in the 4V (initially in the high 200HP range peaking at 310 [04 Mach 1] to 320 [01 SVT Cobra]), the 3V peaked at 315HP & 325 pound-feet torque in the 2008.5 Bullitt (which carried over to the 2010 S197 'D'). With a redline at 6500, top speed of 151, the Bullitt's best published time (MT) was 0-60 in 5.0 seconds, ¼ mile at 13.7 seconds and 102.7 MPH. And along with that fun, it provides EPA of 15/23 mileage - reasonable for a modern muscle car (many report higher results).

Innovations like 3V from SOHC, VCT, CMCV system for low end torque and meeting emissions, FRPP Cold Air Intake, Adaptive Spark Ignition System and more, achieved repeated recognition for its performance as well as its durability: "The 3-valve SOHC 4.6 L engine was on the Ward's 10 Best Engines list for 2005–2008."

Although the 281 is a small block V8 like the 289 in the original Pony Car and much smaller than the '68 Bullitt movie Mustang, look at the performance comparisons:

For 1965 the compression ratio of the base 289 was raised to 9.3:1, increasing power and torque to 200 hp (149 kW) @ 4400 rpm and 282 lb·ft (382 N·m) @ 2400 rpm. The four-barrel version was increased to 10.0:1 compression, and was rated at 225 hp (168 kW) @ 4800 rpm and 305 lb·ft (414 N·m) @ 3200 rpm. Engine specifications were unchanged for 1966 and 1967.

The 390 cu in (6.4 L) 2v is rated at 265 bhp (197.6 kW) @ 4,100 rpm, whilst the 4v version was rated at 320 bhp (238.6 kW) @ 4,100 rpm in certain applications. Certain 1967 & 68 Mustangs had 390 4v engines rated at 335 horsepower, as did some Fairlane GTs.

So although the new 5.0 4V DOHC TiVCT is a superb engineering & performance achievement, and having cut my performance car teeth on a Lotus 907 4V DOHC for 15 years, I can enthusiastically say that I revel in owning the best Retro Mustang - the 05-09 S197 - with the best of the 4.6L/281 engines - the innovative 3V! Like they say, its best to retire when you're at the top! The 4.6L's long and great 20 year run served many a Ford vehicle and Ford owner, served as a test bed for Ford engineers, and without it in the S197 Mustang, there would be no retro Challenger, Camaro, nor the new next level 5.0.

And best of all IMO, I own the best of the 4.6L 3V with only 9800 miles on the clock in a Steve McQueen Bullitt Mustang!
That's what you call a double tribute!!
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Old Mar 14, 2010 | 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by crescent_wrench
Good read!
Nice.
However, he did forget to mention a few of the most significant Mustangs powerplants of all time like the 69 & 70 Boss 302 rated at 290 hp, the 69 351W 4V rated at 290 hp, the 70-73 351C 4V rated as high as 300 hp, the 71 Boss 351 rated at 330 hp, the 68 1/2 to 70 428 CJ and SCJ (under)rated at 335 hp, the 71 429 CJ rated at 370 hp and SCJ rated at 375 hp and, last but not least, the 69 & 70 Boss 429 rated at 375 hp.
By the way, the highest rating for the 390 in the Mustang was the 390 GT rated at 320 hp, not 335.

I've owned a few of those including a 69 Boss 429 and my current restoration project, a 1970 Q code Mach 1 with a 428 CJ and 4-speed.
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Old Mar 15, 2010 | 10:38 AM
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the 4.6 will probably come back 20 years from now when they want to give the mustang engine a retro displacement for ecoboost generation 6
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