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Old Mar 8, 2015 | 04:48 PM
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Daily Driver Suspension question

As the title states I have a 2013 GT that is my DD I was thinking about getting the SVE performance package from latemodel resto, it includes lower control arms, springs to lower 1.5inches, camber bolts and a pan hard bar for 489 witch is about my price range.
My question is that is this a good kit? Or can anyone put me in the direction of a better one for the same price?? Thanks!
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Old Mar 8, 2015 | 05:45 PM
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Yes.
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Old Mar 8, 2015 | 05:50 PM
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Thanks! I only ask cuz I've heard a couple shakey
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Old Mar 8, 2015 | 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by atrav83
Thanks! I only ask cuz I've heard a couple shakey
*shaky reviews from SVE control arms on noise once they get broken in
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Old Mar 8, 2015 | 06:00 PM
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I would go a different route.
Better shocks (Koni's are on sale), lowering springs, GT500 strut mounts, pan hard bar. Hit up any of the different vendors on this site. I'm sure they can put something good together.
If you still have budget, control arms.
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Old Mar 8, 2015 | 06:09 PM
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Or go with the SVE performance pack, but add better shocks. I found those to make a big difference!
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Old Mar 8, 2015 | 06:12 PM
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Gotcha! Would you say shocks are a must with springs? I was gonna space it out so the wallet isn't hurt as bad haha
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Old Mar 8, 2015 | 06:40 PM
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You mention that this is your daily driver. I'm guessing that the day to day handling, is what you want to improve. It's not your 1/4 mile that you're looking to improve. That's why I would start with shocks and springs, and NOT with lower control arms.
Don't get me wrong, they sure can need some improvement (wheel hop).

I got the impression from your initial post, that you have a certain budget in mind.
Look for the older model shocks. You can use them with the GT500 strut mounts. This is a much less expensive route, compared to using camber plates. The difference between the two types of shocks ('05-'10 vs '10-'14) is the length of the thread. Nothing functional!
I'm not a fan of using camber bolts, but there are people who use them without issues. If you do choose to use camber bolts, you can use the '10-'14 type of shocks, and you want to reuse the existing strut mounts. The problem with the existing strut mounts is that, when you take the strut assembly apart, they often break, people lose the ball bearings etc. the GT500 strut mounts are much beefier and cost about a third of good camber plates (and not to mention: safe compared to camber bolts). The GT500 strut mounts work with a moderate drop. If you want to lower the car more than 1.5" I think you want to go with camber plates (but again... budget).

If you lower the car, you'll notice that the rear axle is not aligned anymore. To compensate you need to use an adjustable pan hard bar.

Do some more research, there are different brands out there, at different price points.
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Old Mar 8, 2015 | 07:07 PM
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Thanks for all the help! Could you point me in the right place for the gt500 strut mounts??
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Old Mar 8, 2015 | 07:18 PM
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for example:

http://www.americanmuscle.com/frpp-g...ount-0512.html

or

http://www.latemodelrestoration.com/...rut-Mount-Pair

just to name a few. Remember if you go the route of GT500 strut mounts, use the older style shocks.

i.e. :
http://www.americanmuscle.com/koni-strut-0510.html
and
http://www.americanmuscle.com/koni-shock-0510.html

or

http://www.latemodelrestoration.com/...-Mustang-05-10


disclaimer: please check with your vendor.
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Old Mar 8, 2015 | 10:31 PM
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WOW how long will that sale last??
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Old Mar 8, 2015 | 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Plim
I would go a different route.
Better shocks (Koni's are on sale), lowering springs, GT500 strut mounts, pan hard bar. Hit up any of the different vendors on this site. I'm sure they can put something good together.
If you still have budget, control arms.


^ exactly what he said! I just ordered my koni yellows... I already had Gt500 mounts but found out that my struts were not compatible. I did suspension work with 1.5" drop, koni adju, panhard bar, GT 500 mounts and is still under $1k
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Old Mar 8, 2015 | 11:41 PM
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^ exactly what he said! I just ordered my koni yellows... I already had Gt500 mounts but found out that my struts were not compatible. I did suspension work with 1.5" drop, koni adju, panhard bar, GT 500 mounts and is still under $1k
to clarify to atrav83, his struts did not work with the GT500 mounts, because he wasn't using '05-'10 struts, but the ones that came with his '13!
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Old Mar 8, 2015 | 11:43 PM
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^ exactly what he said! I just ordered my koni yellows... I already had Gt500 mounts but found out that my struts were not compatible. I did suspension work with 1.5" drop, koni adju, panhard bar, GT 500 mounts and is still under $1k
just out of curiosity:
What was the reason you chose the yellows, instead of the Orange Koni's, as you were trying to reuse the factory shocks to begin with?
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Old Mar 8, 2015 | 11:59 PM
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Well I figured since I will have to upgrade the factory eventually down the line, and I want to use of my gt500 mounts so it was no brainier. Plus the factory mount broke on the passenger side end... ( the one where I did not use spring compressor)

Anyhow I wanted to get adjustability and for the price I got them I couldn't pass the deal even if I don't put them on for a while...

Lol but knowing my self, it's like a new toy in a box... So I might do the job again

The ride is good on factory but I got 28000 so...
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Old Mar 9, 2015 | 03:10 AM
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Originally Posted by atrav83
As the title states I have a 2013 GT that is my DD I was thinking about getting the SVE performance package from latemodel resto, it includes lower control arms, springs to lower 1.5inches, camber bolts and a pan hard bar for 489 witch is about my price range.
My question is that is this a good kit? Or can anyone put me in the direction of a better one for the same price?? Thanks!
I would buy a good set of shocks/struts to go with springs. I bought springs first and my car was horribly bouncy. The stock dampers dont dampen good and will lead to a pogo bouncy ride. I have the Koni yellows but if your on a budget like i am most of the time id look into the Koni oranges. My Stang cuts through corners like a knife now, not even the same car anymore!
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Old Mar 9, 2015 | 06:10 AM
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Gotcha! Would you say shocks are a must with springs? I was gonna space it out so the wallet isn't hurt as bad haha
While recommended you do not have to do shocks/struts with springs. My car came from the dealer with Steeda sport springs, steeda HD strut mounts, steeda panhard bar and brace, and stock track pack shocks. Been running it like that for the last year almost. Car feels great. No brake dive or floaty feeling. Just ordered koni yellows to finish it off. Much to my surprise the car also came with the Steeda HD strut mounts. Dealer never listed it as being on the car.

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Old Mar 9, 2015 | 06:10 PM
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While recommended you do not have to do shocks/struts with springs. My car came from the dealer with Steeda sport springs, steeda HD strut mounts, steeda panhard bar and brace, and stock track pack shocks. Been running it like that for the last year almost. Car feels great. No brake dive or floaty feeling. Just ordered koni yellows to finish it off. Much to my surprise the car also came with the Steeda HD strut mounts. Dealer never listed it as being on the car.
You, my friend, got a great deal with the Steeda parts!

Funny how that stuff works, sometimes.

Best Regards,

TJ
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Old Mar 9, 2015 | 06:28 PM
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You, my friend, got a great deal with the Steeda parts!

Funny how that stuff works, sometimes.

Best Regards,

TJ
Definitely a good deal TJ. Can't wait to get the konis in. Always been a big fan of Steeda parts. Just found my Steeda receipt from 5/3/1995 for my 91 LX5.0. Was for 3:55 gears, pulleys, subframe connectors, and G-Trac kit. Man I miss that car.

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Old Mar 10, 2015 | 09:37 AM
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With all of the potholes and tough to get in/out of driveways and speed bumps around here, I sometimes have a hard enough time with the stock height. I just can't imagine the hassle it would be to lower it even more and my car does not feel floaty up to 140 mph. It feels tight and planted all the way up the range.

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