2010-2014 Mustang Information on The S197 {GenII}

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Old Oct 20, 2009 | 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Dig-It Racing
I've been traveling between school in Newport, RI and my home near Smithfield, VA every two to three weeks for the last year - 620 miles one-way. My 2006 Honda Odyssey with Variable Cylinder Management (VCM, which drops the V6 down to three cylinders when cruising) averages about 23 mpg while my 2008 Bullitt Mustang averages around 26 to 27 mpg. .
That's pretty low MPG for your Odyssey. I get about 30 in my 2003 when driving on the highways mostly. I got about 30 when I did 3500 miles from OKC to DC/Philly/Boston and back last fall.

However, I am glad to hear of your Bullitt's MPGs as I have a 2000 Accord 4cyl that barely gets 28 MPG on a mostly highway commute (16 of 17 miles).
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Old Oct 20, 2009 | 11:58 AM
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The trouble with cylinder deactivation is that you are still rotating eight pistons, pins, connecting rods and a full crankshaft and full camshafts & their related gear even though the deactivated cylinders contribute absolutely NOTHING to move your vehicle down the road--in fact, in addition to continuing to place wear on all these parts you create additional drag on the cylinders that ARE activated. As a concept, there has to be a better way--even if you can save a little fuel by doing this. MUCH better would be to trade the vehicle in on a vehicle with a six or a four--in those engines your "deactivated cylinders" add no drag, no weight, and no wear because the engine never had them to begin with! VASTLY superior!

Best of all, turn the engine off completely and harness 20 naked babes up front and then crack the whip, offering rest periods to three or four at a time who want to spend their break pleasing the whipmaster in special little ways. This could be called "EcoBoobs" or "EcoBooty" (Better still: "EcoBoobsandBooty"!) and would increase Mustang sales at least a thousandfold. I'd buy a dozen Mustangs so equipped myself, maybe more.

And people thought Da Vinci had great ideas. Lame.

Greg "Sheeeitttt Smarter Than Da Vinci On His Best Day" Ates

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Old Oct 20, 2009 | 12:55 PM
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My mom's Charger R/T has MDS(Multi-Displacement System) and i've never found any issues with it whenever i've driven it. I personally think its a good system and should be implemented. We still get all of our cylinders and the same power, but some better mileage here and there. I don't see a downside to that if the system works the way it should.
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Old Oct 21, 2009 | 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by smitty
Ford is going to have to include cylinder deactivation to stay competitive going forward.
Maybe, it does look like it has full VCT and that is a good way to reduce pumping losses IIRC, not to mention Ford is going with M6 and A6 tranmissions and maybe they'll juggle the final drive ratios a bit as well for improved effciency. The bottom line for Ford just needs to be that they can advertise a more effcient package compared to the current offering regardless of what technology they employ.

The M6/A6 transmissions by themselves are probably the biggest fix for the GT/V6 cars. The GT is positively frenetic in 5th compared to its competion (also I suspect one of the biggest reasons Brand X guys claim effciency and emissions superiority over the MOD motor).
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Old Oct 22, 2009 | 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by smitty
Ford is going to have to include cylinder deactivation to stay competitive going forward. I have a friend who owned a daytona charger and he would get 28 mpg highway driving 75-80mph. Pretty cool stuff, cause that's what my 2 liter audi gets under the same conditions. Imagine if it had cylinder deactivation! You don't need much horsepower to keep the car rolling. Looking forward to it.

If it did you would be driving a lawn mower
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Old Oct 22, 2009 | 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by mach1fever
If it did you would be driving a lawn mower
Yeah, but a really nice lawn mower.
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Old Oct 22, 2009 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Eights
The trouble with cylinder deactivation is that you are still rotating eight pistons, pins, connecting rods and a full crankshaft and full camshafts & their related gear even though the deactivated cylinders contribute absolutely NOTHING to move your vehicle down the road--in fact, in addition to continuing to place wear on all these parts you create additional drag on the cylinders that ARE activated. As a concept, there has to be a better way--even if you can save a little fuel by doing this. MUCH better would be to trade the vehicle in on a vehicle with a six or a four--in those engines your "deactivated cylinders" add no drag, no weight, and no wear because the engine never had them to begin with! VASTLY superior!

Best of all, turn the engine off completely and harness 20 naked babes up front and then crack the whip, offering rest periods to three or four at a time who want to spend their break pleasing the whipmaster in special little ways. This could be called "EcoBoobs" or "EcoBooty" (Better still: "EcoBoobsandBooty"!) and would increase Mustang sales at least a thousandfold. I'd buy a dozen Mustangs so equipped myself, maybe more.

And people thought Da Vinci had great ideas. Lame.

Greg "Sheeeitttt Smarter Than Da Vinci On His Best Day" Ates


I agree in every way
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