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Old Nov 6, 2013 | 09:26 AM
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Converting the LED fogs to HID on a 2014

I have a 2014 V6.....it came with the LED Fog lights in the lower part of the front end. Theses are way too dim for any use....SO I have been hashing over replacing them with HID conversion kits. I have looked at Diode Dynamics conversion kit for them in the 8000k range. I am looking for others.....

So my questions are.....being those housing are for LED's how does the heat build up from the HID's do? Also, installing HID in place of the LED's, how does this effect the amperage draw on that circuit? Will this cause an issue with electrical system? Any input from all...as to other ideas for swapping out the LEDs to HID I would like to know. My concern is amperage pull on the alternator.....I have swapped out all my exterior lamps, such as markers, license plate, and two interior lights with LED's to less amperage draw.

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Old Nov 6, 2013 | 11:35 AM
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if you want maximum brightness and lowest draw, I would go with a 35w 5,000k set up.

usually the kits use the current fog light circuit to switch on the HIDs, but you tap into the battery directly for power.

as far as the housing itself melting form the extra heat, only one way to find out...
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Old Nov 6, 2013 | 03:23 PM
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First... anyone considering replacing ANY fog light with HID doesn't understand the design or purpose of fog lights. They aren't supposed to light up much of the road. They're only supposed to provide a wide flat beam of light directly in front of the vehicle to cut under precipitation to prevent reflection and illuminate the sides of the road so the driver can see the road edge as well as the center line markings. Adding more power to fog lights is completely contrary to their intended use. In other words, they are not driving lights. And if you think it's really important to have that extra light directly in front of the car in normal conditions then you aren't looking far enough down the road.

Next, converting the lower valance fog lights may not be practical anyway because of the difficulty in finding HID capsules (bulbs) that will fit the sockets.

Finally, I expect there would be a significant heat problem. LED elements themselves don't generate much heat at all but they do generate a lot of heat in the circuitry behind them. For that reason, LED lamps are designed for cooling on the rear outside the housing rather than inside. HIDs produce heat at the arc the creates the light at the end of the capsule. I would think the heat would easily be sufficient to melt and distort the housing because it's not designed to handle much heat at all.

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Old Nov 6, 2013 | 04:32 PM
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8000k!!?? I don't need to explain why that's not a very smart idea.

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Old Nov 6, 2013 | 05:34 PM
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The lower foglights on the V6 are the same ones found on the GT/CS. The bulbs are incandescent H11 bulbs. HID H11 should not be a problem.

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Old Nov 7, 2013 | 07:45 AM
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forgot to mention that if you do this mod, you should adjust the light pattern downward, as you will be blinding oncoming traffic otherwise.
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Old Nov 7, 2013 | 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by bones302
forgot to mention that if you do this mod, you should adjust the light pattern downward, as you will be blinding oncoming traffic otherwise.
+ 1 here
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Old Nov 7, 2013 | 12:58 PM
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I'm just going to leave this here.

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Old Nov 7, 2013 | 01:21 PM
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A perfect example of annoying glare from HID conversions.
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Old Nov 7, 2013 | 02:12 PM
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A perfect example of someone crying.
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Old Nov 7, 2013 | 03:04 PM
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except this was ground level. i blind squirrels.
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Old Nov 7, 2013 | 03:13 PM
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nice one
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Old Nov 7, 2013 | 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by SilverSkoundrel
A perfect example of someone crying.
Lol... Funny
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Old Nov 7, 2013 | 04:31 PM
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I have 3000 HIDs in my Roush fogs and I had to turn them all the way down, so they shine on the road itself. I use them in the rain or fog only.
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Old Nov 7, 2013 | 06:03 PM
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there's a reason I went with the GT/CS fogs. Projector = less glare.
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Old Nov 7, 2013 | 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by TheDivaDanielle
I'm just going to leave this here.
So are those just Led H11 bulbs?
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Old Nov 8, 2013 | 04:23 AM
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So are those just Led H11 bulbs?
No I think she has an actual hid conversion kit, complete with ballast of course. Diva, correct me if I'm wrong.

I just have the LEDs...
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Old Nov 8, 2013 | 07:04 AM
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Thank you all for input.....

My use for these are to light the area which the HID headlamps overshoot on. I notice when driving at night, I am seeing distance but not immedaite area such as edges of the road. Don't get me wrong, HID is nice at night, but immediate area when turning into and out of, is blind.

Diva...did you use the assembly that is already mounted in place or go to whole different assembly? Who's conversion to HID H11 do you use? I know from what Ford says it is a H11 LED lamps. My worry is that I am overloading the circuit that is already in place for the lamps there now. HID conversion, which I am figuring will be 35 watt with some Kelvin lamp. Anymore information would be wonderful.
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Old Nov 8, 2013 | 01:39 PM
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you won't be overloading the circuit with less wattage.

The stock bulbs are 55w. These are 35w. The difference is that in light output (lumens) these put out arond 3400 lumens v.s. the stock H11's which are like.... 800 lumens or so.

I got my kit from DDM Tuning, I'd recommend checking out our vendor here though. Diode Dynamics.

I used the stock factory Lower Valence Fog light kit. At the time I bought mine from Starkey, as Ford hadn't yet released an inclusive kit to convert from the upper grille fogs to the lower valence fogs.
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Old Nov 8, 2013 | 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by WhiteBird00
A perfect example of annoying glare from HID conversions.
indeed
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