2010-2014 Mustang Information on The S197 {GenII}

Cat failure @ 40k miles

Old Feb 16, 2016 | 01:10 AM
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Cat failure @ 40k miles

Anyone had a cat fail real early? Mines rattling BAD, not sure what caused it. Trying to get it in tomorrow to get it fixed... Hasn't thrown a code yet.
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Old Feb 16, 2016 | 02:01 AM
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You running an aftermarket tune ?
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Old Feb 16, 2016 | 05:00 AM
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Yes. I'm not too familiar with cat failures, will running too rich cause them to break apart? I thought an impact would do that (no dents on canister, though...). Ratios never looked too rich, either when I data logged, but who know maybe with the cold weather it's running rich.
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Old Feb 16, 2016 | 06:27 PM
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Yeah I agree with you. I know poor air/fuel ratios will render a converter useless but have never heard of the guts breaking apart. Usually vibration causes this or some type of impact.
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Old Feb 16, 2016 | 07:08 PM
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Of course when I took in today the noise completely disappeared...

Maybe it had warmed up enough to not make any noise...a good 1.5 hours of driving so everything was thoroughly warmed. I also returned tune to stock just before heading to the dealer, whether or not that has anything to do with it I don't know.

Might just get a new tune, anyways. Currently have a Redliners and they are apparently AWOL, and I don't particularly care for my Steeda tune (throttle still not where I like it). I like how the Redliners tune feels, but I'm worried about long term effects, if it's truly safe and all that.

I guess I'll have to see what else is out there.
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Old Feb 16, 2016 | 07:21 PM
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I love my VMP tune. Justin Starkey does a good job.
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Old Feb 16, 2016 | 07:31 PM
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Yeah, I hear VMP and Lund get good reviews...although I don't like that VMP charges for revisions.
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Old Feb 17, 2016 | 04:55 AM
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Yeah, I hear VMP and Lund get good reviews...although I don't like that VMP charges for revisions.
True. I believe his first time charge for a tune is less. Maybe in the long haul it comes out in the wash?
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Old Feb 17, 2016 | 05:43 AM
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I had one let loose on the inside after driving through a deep puddle. Totally blocked the exhaust and took a special mechanic to find the problem.
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Old Feb 17, 2016 | 06:06 AM
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Well, for whatever reason the sound is still gone on the stock tune, even after sitting all night. Will load up the tune again this evening and see if it comes back. No idea what to think if it does, as I can't imagine a tune affecting a cat like that if it's already grenaded inside.

To clarify, the "canisters" on the H pipe are the cats, yes? I would assume so since I don't see any anywhere else, and they are between the O2 sensors.
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Old Feb 17, 2016 | 06:27 AM
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Here is food for thought.

On my Acura GS-R

I had a very similar issue.. well ... maybe not quite, but maybe...

My car had a very specific type rattle within a certain RPM range and it would rattle no matter what gear I was in. I ended up putting out big money for different shops to take my exhaust apart and even went as far as to have new cats installed. Issue was STILL there even after several shops told me it was my CATS. I ended up taking it to a mechanic that only works with Hondas. Turned out that the manifold welds broke on one side internally. $40 later, he fixed it for me.

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Old Feb 17, 2016 | 06:29 AM
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Yes, those would be the cats.
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Old Feb 17, 2016 | 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by 2014GHIGGT
I love my VMP tune. Justin Starkey does a good job.
Originally Posted by Joeywhat
Yeah, I hear VMP and Lund get good reviews
Yes,....yes they do.
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Old Feb 18, 2016 | 05:13 PM
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Might just get a new tune, anyways. Currently have a Redliners and they are apparently AWOL, and I don't particularly care for my Steeda tune (throttle still not where I like it). I like how the Redliners tune feels, but I'm worried about long term effects, if it's truly safe and all that.

I guess I'll have to see what else is out there.
Do you want me to pass it along & see Matt or James can do?

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Old Feb 18, 2016 | 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by tj@steeda
Do you want me to pass it along & see Matt or James can do?

Best Regards,

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If you'd like. I can pass along the tune from the other company as well (or a datalog) as they appear to no longer be in business.

I know I asked about the throttle response a while back, and was more or less told there wasn't much else to be done. I think the primary difference between the two is the steeda tune starts out pretty tame until 30% or so, then really kicks in...the other tune I like better is much more linear, and it seems like it gets to 100% before the pedal is fully to the floor... If that makes sense. I can accelerate quicker with less throttle with the other tune
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Old Feb 18, 2016 | 08:34 PM
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Yes, send your info to tim@steeda.com and I will see if they can take another look it.

Best Regards,

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Old Feb 19, 2016 | 04:41 AM
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[QUOTE=Joeywhat;6967672]If you'd like. I can pass along the tune from the other company as well (or a datalog) as they appear to no longer be in business.



I'm not trying to be a smart butt. If i were running a tune from someone no longer around, i sure to hell would be changing to someone else. So many 'good' $75 tunes around.
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Old Feb 19, 2016 | 05:26 AM
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If you'd like. I can pass along the tune from the other company as well (or a datalog) as they appear to no longer be in business.



I'm not trying to be a smart butt. If i were running a tune from someone no longer around, i sure to hell would be changing to someone else. So many 'good' $75 tunes around.
Well, if you've read the thread you would see that is indeed the case...
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Old Feb 20, 2016 | 04:07 AM
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Keep us posted on how everything goes. I don't and can't understand how a tune could make your catts rattle.
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Old Feb 20, 2016 | 07:03 AM
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If it is one of the cats, remember they are covered under the 8 year/80,000 mile Emissions warranty.
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