http://www.svtperformance.com/forums...352984&page=28

Still says there will be a 6.2 and 6.4 ver of the OHV BOSS engines.
5.8 is still listed though, which is odd.

No word on the rumoured 5.0
(guess its not a BOSS engine) and wondering if THAT is going back to OHV as well, or will it be an OHC

 

Thats sucks. I prefer ohc

 

Well I'll be . . . . . .


Very interesting. I have no dog in this fight (OHV vs. OHC). I just want the engines to perform like scalded dogs!!! (Maybe not the best reference, and in no way do I mean harm to animals! )

 

We go from Blue II on BON saying definately OHC to Four Cam on SVTP saying definately OHV. Heck, at this point maybe its both.

 

Hmmm, I originally posted the above with a bit of jest intended.....but now I'm liking this idea. Think of the hi-lo DOHC/SOHC mix of the current Modular V8 but replaced with a DOHC/OHV mix.

Theoretically you could get a Mustang GT with a 5.0L DOHC V8 or a more budget minded Mustang LX with an OHV version of the same 5.0L. F150s could be had with OHV V8's while Lincoln's could run with DOHC V8's in various sizes.

The above seems likely to please far more people and prove much more adaptable than OHV or DOHC engines alone ever could. Further, I think it could and would serve better to please a more varied audience than a mix of SOHC and DOHC engines could. Unfortunately such an idea is likely much more radical than anything Mulally would ever embrace.

 

I personally prefer OHCs, but could easily live with OHV if well done. The primary concerns at this point are efficiency, adapability, and power. That said, his information conflicts Igor directly as well as reports of the 6.2L being dropped. So we'll see.

You have an interesting idea, JS (please stop using the LX tag). But I think its more likely that the 5.0L is a production-ready version of the Cammer crate engine (finally) and thus a seperate family from the 6L+ BOSS maybe-OHVs.

What i do dislike are all the fanbois coming out of the woodwork in that thread and wizzing on Ford for using OHCs at all. If OHCs are so bad how come Zee Germans have been kicking out OHC V8s that will bring tears to your eyes for years? Both setups have their ups and downs, as with just about everything in atuomotive D&E.

 

My only requirement is for the next generation of Ford engines is to wipe the **** eating grin off of a LSx lovers face - Thats no small order, but LSx guys have become intolerable and need to be taken down a notch or put in the dead book.

 

This is the engine they are talking about, it looks very much like a mod motor, I wish somebody would have gotton a better picture of the front dress, I swear the valve covers look like they are actually cam covers. (I once posted this picture elsewhere saying it was possibly the next gen Ford V8 - I was told definitively that I was full of BS)

If anybody rembers that OZ article somebody posted about future FPV products they said OHV in there as well.

I really dont care either way, OHC or OHV, just give me some frigg'n cubes. That said, if they are indeed OHV I'm betting VVT is out the door and what a wonderful thing that was for the 3v Mod motor.

OHV gets the nod for compact dimensions, reduced complexitiy (to a point - examine Dodges OHV VVT system - can't tell me that cam is cheap to make) and reduced cost.

 

That picture to me always looked like OHC as well. You can see a round buldge in the far sides which i would have sworn to be for the cams.

 

The other OHC-esque portion of that motor is the length/positioning of the cam/valve covers. A large portion of these cam/valve covers extends well forward of the first set of intake manifold runners. In an OHC design this added length would be there to cover the camshaft sprockets, but in an OHV engine there would be nothing going on that far forward of those first two intake runners. given closer inspection it appears that the cam/valve covers extend well past the front of the engine block itself, another characteristic one might expect to find in the typical OHC design but which seems a bit odd on an OHV engine. Also, note that this isn't the case with the rear of the valve/cam covers with the same appearing to stop cold just behind where the last set of intake runners appear to be.

 

Good point about the cylinder head length, never gave it much thought, I was looking at the location of the water pump myself and trying to peak down into the engine valley, OHV motors can have a dry valleyt , but the valley is typically shallower because of the camshaft and in the case of the current hemi, the cam darn near sits on the top of the motor.

 

ROFL. My apologies for any pain and discomfort my continued use of the LX tag has brought...I promise to stop using it. However, should Ford ever decide to revive that particular tag I fear that you may need therapy.

 

Need to sticky this thread so we can remember whether fourcam really has the inside skinny or not. As others have said, the engine in that photo does not look like an OHC engine.

 

According to muscle mustangs and fast fords that's is the experimental 7.0L..

 

Igor mentioned in this thread:
http://www.blueovalforums.com/forums...c=14494&st=140

Also re: the BOSS name

Wondering if the rumoured 5.0L will be the BOSS engine
Boss 302
Kinda makes sense no?

 

I think Ford may be messing with us. Right now it could be anything and that may indeed be exactly what they want. Multiple seemingly reliable sources of information all conflicting with one another.

Could be a smoke screen.

 

Yes indeed. And BlueII's last post indicates exactly that claiming that the Boss 302 is a Twin Force, DOHC, Mod Motor and that the former Boss/now Triton line continues with SOHC's for the time being as expected. But then this begs the question...where did the OHV speculation come from? Given the above I'd be willing to bet somebody got hold of a little of this information and then promptly got their wires crossed regarding info pertaining to the upcoming TT, DOHC, 5.0L Boss V8 and the existing but new 5.0L 'Boss' OHV crate motor.

 

And thats not bad thing, 5L BOSS 302 would kick ****.


BTW, at this point I don't care what kind of engine the 777 is, after staring at that pic repeatedly I just want that car.

 

ROLF. In lieu of the car I'd gladly take the motor. The idea that Ford will almost certainly build a new age 427 big block V8 at some point just puts a smile on my face. The fact that it will likely wear DOHC's and Twin turbo's as well at some point makes that smile wrap all they around the back of my head.

 

I could totally see the Mustang GT getting a 5.0L 4v
That'd be a NICE engine... 375-400hp

Bring back the 5-litre