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Old 10/6/14, 07:38 AM
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Best way to make a GT drive more like a Boss 302?

What do you guys think are the most important mods to make your meager, lowly GT drive more like the widely beloved 2012-2313 Boss 302?

The Boss is praised for having an excellent mix of balance, power and all around great driver feedback.

Where would you start?

...Or, would you go a totally different direction for a better all around driving experience?
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Depends on what your intent is. Is this a DD, Race car, etc. I would start with a Boss suspension upgrade or a complete suspensions system by one manufacturer.

Here is a great link http://www.brembo50.com/page-1130035

Problem is since yours is a 2015 I think you will have to wait for company's to come out with parts for it.

The BOSS 302 had a different platform.
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Originally Posted by Jazzman442
Depends on what your intent is. Is this a DD, Race car, etc. I would start with a Boss suspension upgrade or a complete suspensions system by one manufacturer.

Here is a great link http://www.brembo50.com/page-1130035

Problem is since yours is a 2015 I think you will have to wait for company's to come out with parts for it.

The BOSS 302 had a different platform.
Thanks for the link...I had visited that site a long time ago and it has a lot more info on it now.

It looks like the biggest differences that impact the driving experience, aside from the engine are the spring rates, adjustable shocks and tires.

My car is a 2011.
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MRGTX,

Sorry I must of had a Brain Fart LOL.

One of the most winingest Mustangs is the Steeda Car. Also the Boss Forum is a good place for information.
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I'd say springs, better shocks, and rear sway bar. Stiffer springs will help, and if you upgrade to a Boss or LS rear sway you'd be ready to put wider tires on the back. That would certainly give you less body roll and sharper turn-in.
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New Springs, Shocks, Sway Bars, and Tires. Not even really lowering the car, just stiffening it up.
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A Roadrunner motor and a Boss suspension.
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When you stop and really think about the cost and effort involved, you would be better off buying a used Boss. You also have the bonus of picking which body style you prefer, as the 12/13 are quite different for the cosmetics while the performance parts are the same.

I daily drive my Boss 8 months a year and put it away Dec-mid April. The 13 has Sync, so my stereo upgrade and phone pairing was easier than if it had been a 12. I have never enjoyed any vehicle as much in all my 30+ years of driving.

If you really want Boss performance levels and features, GET A BOSS. Prices range in the low 30k range, depending on mileage and upgrades. If this just isn't an option for you, then upgrading the suspension/chassis would probably be the way to go as previously stated. It looks like you already have the exhaust covered...
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If I bought a Boss, the first thing I would have to do is peel off the stripes.
Also, the bosses don't have the center fog lamps
Then I'd have to find a set of Brembo wheels, because the Boss ones are pretty unattractive if you ask me
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Depends on what you want to do, I would keep the stock rear bar and front bar, run a bigger square setup and get Koni Yellows and Steeda Sport springs, that right there would pretty much make your car handle as well if not better than a stock Boss and close to a modified one since most guys get Koni's and Steeda Sports or similar springs.
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Learn to drive your Gt, it will keep up with the boss.
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Originally Posted by ace72ace
When you stop and really think about the cost and effort involved, you would be better off buying a used Boss. You also have the bonus of picking which body style you prefer, as the 12/13 are quite different for the cosmetics while the performance parts are the same.

I daily drive my Boss 8 months a year and put it away Dec-mid April. The 13 has Sync, so my stereo upgrade and phone pairing was easier than if it had been a 12. I have never enjoyed any vehicle as much in all my 30+ years of driving.

If you really want Boss performance levels and features, GET A BOSS. Prices range in the low 30k range, depending on mileage and upgrades. If this just isn't an option for you, then upgrading the suspension/chassis would probably be the way to go as previously stated. It looks like you already have the exhaust covered...
By far the best advice given in this thread!
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Originally Posted by ace72ace
When you stop and really think about the cost and effort involved, you would be better off buying a used Boss.
Exactly my thoughts.
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Learn to drive your Gt, it will keep up with the boss.
Ding ding ding, or don't learn to drive and boost it. You'll catch up in 3rd.
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Originally Posted by Coyote5-0
If I bought a Boss, the first thing I would have to do is peel off the stripes.
Also, the bosses don't have the center fog lamps
Then I'd have to find a set of Brembo wheels, because the Boss ones are pretty unattractive if you ask me
Yeah, a few Boss owners took the stripes off when they first came out. Meh, it's your car, do what you want to it, even if it lowers the value. I was never a fan of the wheels either, so I upgraded to the Boss Laguna Seca wheels. I really don't mind if it doesn't have fogs, a few Boss owners added those too.

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http://www.mustangandfords.com/proje...n-boss-part-1/
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Originally Posted by ace72ace
I was never a fan of the wheels either, so I upgraded to the Boss Laguna Seca wheels.
Those are Boss 302S wheels....
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Seriously? Sell your GT (and take a loss) and buy a Boss? If you trade a 2013 GT for a 2013 Boss that's at least $10,000 you have to spend.

The platform is already there. With an intake and tune our Coyotes can easily reach the Boss power levels. 24hp is not that much to ask for. That's $800.

Then all you have to do is work on the suspension (springs, rear sway bar and shocks, tower brace if needed). That's what ~$2,000 or so?

Then we have wheels/tires. That's another ~$2,000 (conservative estimate).

Done.

Total expense to give your GT a Boss like driving feel: ~$4800.

So unless you can find a Boss for trade in value of your GT + ~$5000, I think these mods are a much better option. OP asked what's the best way to emulate a Boss driving experience, not what's the best way to own a Boss.

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Originally Posted by 5.M0NSTER
Seriously? Sell your GT (and take a loss) and buy a Boss? If you trade a 2013 GT for a 2013 Boss that's at least $10,000 you have to spend.

The platform is already there. With an intake and tune our Coyotes can easily reach the Boss power levels. 24hp is not that much to ask for. That's $800.

Then all you have to do is work on the suspension (springs, rear sway bar and shocks, tower brace if needed). That's what ~$2,000 or so?

Then we have wheels/tires. That's another ~$2,000 (conservative estimate).

Done.

Total expense to give your GT a Boss like driving feel: ~$4800.

So unless you can find a Boss for trade in value of your GT + ~$5000, I think these mods are a much better option. OP asked what's the best way to emulate a Boss driving experience, not what's the best way to own a Boss.
+1, also if you aren't tracking the car you don't need the reliability of a forged motor so you save a ton of money there.
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Originally Posted by Brandon302
+1, also if you aren't tracking the car you don't need the reliability of a forged motor so you save a ton of money there.
I agree. But even the stock motor can handle some track duty. If you have a track pack I think you don't have to worry about forged internals either unless you raise your redline via a tune, and make your Coyote rev past 7000 rpm. At that point I'd worry about forged pistons and connecting rods/H-beams.

I track my car, which is a 2014 GT TP and I don't really see any reason to worry about it. I kept the engine and tune stock other than a K&N box filter. Lack of power is not the issue at the track for my car. It's being able to put more of it to the ground.

P.S. If my motor ever needs to be replaced, I'd totally go with the Ford Racing Aluminator though. Then I'd feel perfectly justified revving it to 7400 or so.

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