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Old 3/26/12 | 05:51 PM
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The engine and styling is fundamentally different between an '05 and a '12. About the only thing that is identical is the frame, and it wouldn't surprise me if that was different in some ways as well. The '05 and the '12 are similar only in that they're Mustangs. Aside from that they're almost completely different.
Just because 90% of the people looking at the two of them can't tell them apart doesn't make them identical vehicles. That's ridiculous. By that line of thinking, you're going to need to get others' opinions on what they think of your car before you buy one. Good luck with that.

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Old 3/26/12 | 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by 11SHELBYGT500
Are you going to ask what makes it a half?
No.

Disappointed?


If you're buying a Mustang for what others will think about it, you're doing it wrong.
That's your opinion. It's pretty irrelevent in the grand scheme of things though. If Ford wants to sell more Mustangs then they need to make bigger changes in the style, and make those changes more often than they do now. Especially with the much newer looking Camaro on the streets.




Let me make a comparison here. Look at a Japanese car that is consistently one of the best selling cars on the market, the Toyota Camry.


2005


2008


2012



vs...


2005


2008


2012




The Camry has actually gone through 4 distinct body changes since 2005, each easily recognizagble. The Mustang has barely changed at all.
Old 3/26/12 | 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Moustang


The Camry has actually gone through 4 distinct body changes since 2005, each easily recognizagble. The Mustang has barely changed at all.

You're actually comparing the body style of a Camry to the body style of a Mustang? THE Mustang? The most iconic car in U.S. automotive history? The harbinger of the Muscle Car era? A car in the middle of a styling trend which is DESIGNED to call back to the original style and shape of the first '60's cars?

If you can't understand Ford's reasoning for this, you're ignorant.

Then again, I think that conclusion is inevitable since you felt it necessary to compare the Mustang's styling to--of all things--a Camry.

There's a Scion TC out there somewhere with your name on it.
Old 3/26/12 | 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Moustang

No.

Disappointed?

That's your opinion. It's pretty irrelevent in the grand scheme of things though. If Ford wants to sell more Mustangs then they need to make bigger changes in the style, and make those changes more often than they do now. Especially with the much newer looking Camaro on the streets.

Let me make a comparison here. Look at a Japanese car that is consistently one of the best selling cars on the market, the Toyota Camry.

2005

2008

2012

vs...

2005

2008

2012

The Camry has actually gone through 4 distinct body changes since 2005, each easily recognizagble. The Mustang has barely changed at all.
A little. LOL
Old 3/26/12 | 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Moustang

That's nice. It's a just a Mustang with stripes to 90% of the people on the road.

Seriously, step away from the hardcore Mustang enthusiast web sites like this one and go talk to the average person on the street. Most can't tell the difference between a 2005 V6 and a 2012 GT.

My wife thought she was clever when she told me that she finally figured out that if it had round lights in the grill it was a GT. That's typical of most people.
Or how about you recognize this is an enthusiasts forum and we act as such. We say every difference ranging from pistons, oil seperators, oil squirters, body panels, n/a, f/i, 18" 19" 20l rims and tires, pirelli, continental, michelin...need i go on?

We buy out mustangs not only for ourselves, but for "swag," bragging rights, we buy for aftermarket potential, we buy for our love of Mustangs. Just because someone cant tell the diff between a 05-09 an 10-12 models doesnt mean much to us. If it really bothered us we would enlighten the poor individual but it really doesnt.

Thy why theres forums like this, a place for nutheads like us to gather and blab about the new bumpsteer kit we got, the fresh detail job we just did, or announce when our car is going in/out of storage. Let us do our thing, if it bothers you, then dont pay attention to whatevers buggin ya.


(stressful day, just a lil vent. Not comin across as a bady guy here just speakin some truth.)
Old 3/26/12 | 07:28 PM
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I still cannot tell the year difference in the Camrys.....pics or not.....
Old 3/26/12 | 08:11 PM
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Why does everyone get so defensive about every subject I mean look either you like it or you don't you don't have to argue about how they're the same or different or whatever just give your perspective and be understanding of what others say like seriously
Old 3/26/12 | 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Moustang


2008


2012




...The Mustang has barely changed at all.

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Old 3/26/12 | 10:25 PM
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i think its good they made the changes, keeps it interesting. i much prefer the '10-'12 style over the '13 so there's no reason to be mad or trade in for the new one. I just wish the new tails were the right size for a retrofit.
Old 3/26/12 | 11:19 PM
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05-09 was the same body, changes occurred very subtly and they were more mechnical than aesthetic. And oh yea 08-12 is "the same" the only things the same are the doors, 4 seats, a steering wheel, seat belts you get what im saying. But the fenders, quarter panels, wheels and tires, hood, front fascia, rear fascia, diffuser, tailights, mechanics, suspension, brakes, engine, transmissions, yea all that other stuff too. I actually asked several random people what year they thought my car was and 90% knew it was a 10+ model. I then asked about the camaro and the majority only knew that it was new because o transformers. Unlike the camaro and challenger, the mustang never went on a hiatus. Therefore the designs have been around longer than others.

Before i start babbling lemme just get to the point. If you dont like it then fine, but teres no need to rain on anyone else's parade. If you dont like the styling and looks so much why not get rid of the stang and buy something boring and dull like a camry. Leave the rip snortin beasts for real enthusiasts to drive. That is all
Old 3/27/12 | 01:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Moustang
No.

Disappointed?




That's your opinion. It's pretty irrelevent in the grand scheme of things though. If Ford wants to sell more Mustangs then they need to make bigger changes in the style, and make those changes more often than they do now. Especially with the much newer looking Camaro on the streets.




Let me make a comparison here. Look at a Japanese car that is consistently one of the best selling cars on the market, the Toyota Camry.


2005


2008


2012



vs...


2005


2008


2012




The Camry has actually gone through 4 distinct body changes since 2005, each easily recognizagble. The Mustang has barely changed at all.
really.. I am going to try and be very nice here and say.. you are out of your mind... it sells so many because its a 14k Sh%T box. It also sells so many because its a throw away car for people that are looks for a-b transport. If the mustang was in the same price range as that toyota it would out sell it 5 to 1 all day.

the 2005 vs 2012 is also really stupid. Both cars are mustangs but they are almost as different as a 2004 vs a 2005.. you need to get real. pretty much the only thing that is the same is the platform and like someone else said I would put money on it that its had atleast a small update.

Saying its the same because it has fenders and such is like saying its the same as a f150 because it has fenders. Atleast the f150 would have the option of having a driveline thats in the same family.. goodness man.. I mean really...

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Old 3/27/12 | 04:28 AM
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Hmmm..... So much hostility
Old 3/27/12 | 05:33 AM
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Originally Posted by grabberblue 5.0
Hmmm..... So much hostility
No just someone who has no idea what hes talking about being learnt somethin new
Old 3/27/12 | 05:36 AM
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Mustangs have frames???
Old 3/27/12 | 08:17 AM
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platform frame same dif
Old 3/27/12 | 08:42 AM
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Ooooh..oooh now I can introduce the most prolific and possibly the most awesome light truck line of all time..ALL TIME!!

The 1988-98 Chevrolet C/K1500-3500

Yeah, that's a DECADE!




I think the words you might be looking for are OH and SNAP.


/trollolololololololololol
Old 3/27/12 | 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Automagically
Ooooh..oooh now I can introduce the most prolific and possibly the most awesome light truck line of all time..ALL TIME!!

The 1988-98 Chevrolet C/K1500-3500

Yeah, that's a DECADE!

I think the words you might be looking for are OH and SNAP.

/trollolololololololololol
...and than they needed a bailout.
Old 3/27/12 | 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by 11SHELBYGT500

...and than they needed a bailout.
They can only sell so many. Buying used didn't help them. Let's look at the lineup at that time and up until 2008. It's not pretty.
Old 3/27/12 | 10:46 AM
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This is so random, we are comparing mustangs to camry's now? and then to a chevy truck??!!
what is going on here?
:O
Old 3/27/12 | 11:15 AM
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This is so random, we are comparing mustangs to camry's now? and then to a chevy truck??!!
what is going on here?
:O
Not a comparison as much as a juxtaposition of automotive evolution and how convoluted the argument of change in the Mustang in late model years has been.


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