any projected 1/4 times for the new 2011 V6 and GT?
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I can see as low as 12.3's stock with a manual and some hard launches. Low 1.6's
All drag racers know it depends on the location, track, and weather. Unless perfect conditions, I can't see the V6 doing 13.9's out the box. Most people will average mid low 14's. On drags, mid-high 13's.
I can see as low as 12.3's stock with a manual and some hard launches. Low 1.6's
All drag racers know it depends on the location, track, and weather. Unless perfect conditions, I can't see the V6 doing 13.9's out the box. Most people will average mid low 14's. On drags, mid-high 13's.
I think that the Camaro's torque advantage can nullify most of it's weight penalty and it becomes a drivers race. I'm still hopeful than the GT is a 10th or two faster than the SS.
The fastest time I've seen for a stock Camaro was 12.9 the ones I saw at the track this Summer ran between 13.00 to 13.3 all night.
I'm sure Motor Trend, Road & Track and all the others car rags should get there comparison tests in by March or April.
Not interested in what the six does since I would not be interested in buying one. What kind of times did a stock Terminator run? According to C&D about 12.9 @ 112. The new GT will have similar power numbers (the 03-04 Cobra was under rated) and probably a few extra pounds. I would guess a new GT would run a tenth or two slower than an 03-04 Cobra or about 13 flat @ say 110-111. That's still an improvement over the 2010 GT which, according to MT, would run a 13.5 @ 104 and about equal to a 2010 Camaro SS.
Not interested in what the six does since I would not be interested in buying one. What kind of times did a stock Terminator run? According to C&D about 12.9 @ 112. The new GT will have similar power numbers (the 03-04 Cobra was under rated) and probably a few extra pounds. I would guess a new GT would run a tenth or two slower than an 03-04 Cobra or about 13 flat @ say 110-111. That's still an improvement over the 2010 GT which, according to MT, would run a 13.5 @ 104 and about equal to a 2010 Camaro SS.
In the real world I have yet to see a Genesis run a 14.0, and at least locally, never an 05-09 GT run a 13.5 bone stock.
I can see an honest 14.2 which is great!! On street tires. Genesis run mid 14's in my neck of the woods.
I ran 14.8's on my Manual V6. I miss that car. Stock it's a mid-low 15sec car. I am excited however, I don't think a low 14 sec car is slow at all!!
Something about hitting a milestone, getting in the 13's, 12's feels great.
On slicks 13's easy!!
I can see a magazine rating the V6 as fast as a 13.7@102, But I don't think anyone here is trying to guess rag numbers.
In the real world I have yet to see a Genesis run a 14.0, and at least locally, never an 05-09 GT run a 13.5 bone stock.
I can see an honest 14.2 which is great!! On street tires. Genesis run mid 14's in my neck of the woods.
In the real world I have yet to see a Genesis run a 14.0, and at least locally, never an 05-09 GT run a 13.5 bone stock.
I can see an honest 14.2 which is great!! On street tires. Genesis run mid 14's in my neck of the woods.
And even then on a fast track where the GT500 can flex its muscles, a new GT might be hard pressed to maintain an advantage.
The GT500 was able to fend off the Lotus Elise (not the Exige) at VIR by dent of its power during one of CD's LL's
However, since the GT500 is set top lose weight with the '11 model (and probably see a power bump as well) It will still be worth it. On the flip side, anybody who's wanted an 07-90 or '10 GT500 will probably get them for a very good price.
Seems kind of strange to go back and read what was said when the 03 Cobras first came out. The 99 and 01 Cobras had an aluminum block but Ford switched to an iron block when they added the blower in 03. The reasoning at time was that the aluminum block would not take the extra stress of the blower. A lot of people thought it was just to save money. The mid-engine Ford GT and now perhaps the 11 GT500 will be using an aluminum block and a blower. I guess the newer blocks are stronger, eh? Somebody should probably tell Jack Roush that he screwed up by putting blowers on all those 4.6 aluminum blocks.
Considering the GT will be able to trap in the neighborhood of about 6000-6100 rpm in fourth gear (manual......with the 3.31) , that means more time at high revs which I know this motor is going to love, should be able to put an SS on the trailer. Do the math with a 3.73, and a 27 inch tire, at 7000 rpm in 4th you get 114 mph. Remember, 4th is a 1.32 ratio. Coincidence? I think not. This will be the first car I can recall ever being geared nearly perfectly for the 1/4 mile using every bit of its four gears, from the factory, for its power to weight ratio. That is going to make a significant difference in et and mph with someone who can drive behind the wheel, not to mention with a set of drag radials. So, with all that said, a drag radial, 3.73 manual well driven (not afraid to speed shift) in good air GT, 12.25 at 112. This car may get an 11.99 with a tune and a exhaust added to the above mix, I know some are shaking their heads, that is pretty incredible performance and hard to believe, but its very possible looking at the numbers.
Last edited by 200mphcobra; Jan 3, 2010 at 08:44 AM.
Seems kind of strange to go back and read what was said when the 03 Cobras first came out. The 99 and 01 Cobras had an aluminum block but Ford switched to an iron block when they added the blower in 03. The reasoning at time was that the aluminum block would not take the extra stress of the blower. A lot of people thought it was just to save money. The mid-engine Ford GT and now perhaps the 11 GT500 will be using an aluminum block and a blower. I guess the newer blocks are stronger, eh? Somebody should probably tell Jack Roush that he screwed up by putting blowers on all those 4.6 aluminum blocks.
But about the 1/4 miles, i would agree with most and say 13.9 for the V6. I think the GT will be in the 12.7-12.8 range. Evan Smith driven i wouldn't be surprised to see a 12.5 on stock tires.
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I can see as low as 12.3's stock with a manual and some hard launches. Low 1.6's
All drag racers know it depends on the location, track, and weather. Unless perfect conditions, I can't see the V6 doing 13.9's out the box. Most people will average mid low 14's. On drags, mid-high 13's.
I can see as low as 12.3's stock with a manual and some hard launches. Low 1.6's
All drag racers know it depends on the location, track, and weather. Unless perfect conditions, I can't see the V6 doing 13.9's out the box. Most people will average mid low 14's. On drags, mid-high 13's.
the iron block in the 03 cobra was about strength per dollar. Sure you can have aluminum ones as strong but not as cheap.
But about the 1/4 miles, i would agree with most and say 13.9 for the V6. I think the GT will be in the 12.7-12.8 range. Evan Smith driven i wouldn't be surprised to see a 12.5 on stock tires.
But about the 1/4 miles, i would agree with most and say 13.9 for the V6. I think the GT will be in the 12.7-12.8 range. Evan Smith driven i wouldn't be surprised to see a 12.5 on stock tires.
I saw in the new MM&FF that Evan Smith was brought in by Ford and ran the new GT 36 times at the strip with engineers present. He was very impressed by the car but could not release specific times.



