2010-2014 Mustang Information on The S197 {GenII}

All 2011 Mustangs on hold

Old Apr 20, 2010 | 11:14 AM
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EAT MORE FIGS!

It might help and certainly couldn't hurt.
Old Apr 20, 2010 | 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by RMS70
Another reason I am glad I bought a 2010 instead of waiting on the 2011.
What other surprises will show up later?

Most likely your unobstructed view of 2011 tail-lights pulling away from you.
Old Apr 20, 2010 | 11:42 AM
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I highly doubt the people at the end of the 800 line know anything. They are probably more clueless than the dealerships. Short of flying your own personal spy drone over the assembly plant, the best intel you will probably get is from the sources here at TMS. You'll never know everything. Ford is too tight lipped and there is too much at stake. Learn what you can here, infer whatever you want from there, and that's as good as it's going to get.
Old Apr 20, 2010 | 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Nihl
The 3week delay hasn't been the nightmare I was referring to. It's just been the icing on the cake. As far as I am concerned with THIS delay, if it's as minor as it is I'm just delighted to get the vehicle finally.

My question was if we should be worried about the 2011 motor to begin with. And directed towards people who are capable of responding to it/reading it.
Which motor?

GT -- Brand new motor (mostly), though built off of prior knowledge. Developed on a shortened timeframe. Sure, be worried if you want. But it's still one kick butt motor and any issues, if there are any, will probably be minor and will be covered under warranty.

V6 -- A few differences perhaps, but it's almost the same engine that has already been used in many other cars. Not much to worry about there.

In the end, I think the incredible advancements of the new drivetrain by far..by herculean leaps and bounds... outweigh a little worry about them being new.
Old Apr 20, 2010 | 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by RMS70
Another reason I am glad I bought a 2010 instead of waiting on the 2011.
What other surprises will show up later?
good grief....
Old Apr 20, 2010 | 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by RMS70
Another reason I am glad I bought a 2010 instead of waiting on the 2011.
What other surprises will show up later?
Dude, nothing happend.... lol wow.
Old Apr 20, 2010 | 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by todd03blown
wow some of these posters here really need to get a grip on life!!! This is a car you are ordering and only a car. Who gives a **** about a week delay? 2 week delay? You will get it when you get it..saying a nightmare, etc, etc is really laughable.

This coming from a guy who has ordered 3 brand new mustangs including a 99 cobra and a 2001 cobra not to mention a 2003 cobra.

Why get yourself so worked up? Why listen to your co-workers who don't have a freaking clue what the hell is going on. Relax and be thankful you have posters that share this info with you as they don't have to.
Agreed. If a delayed auto ordered is what constitutes a big problem in one's life, then they're doing okay.
Old Apr 20, 2010 | 12:34 PM
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Some seem to forget that Ford tested the new 5.0 at WOT for how many hours/days??? (Wasn't that in the MM&FF article/thread?) No worries.

As far as those that like to slam the union workers, regardless of any excesses in the past during good times, with all the layoffs and plant shutdowns and exportation of US jobs, you can bet union workers are just as puckered about keeping their job in this near death economy as non-union workers. I'm sure they are doing their job well.

And I would rather have my Mustang built by experienced journeyman - that get a break and a lunch - than a bunch of minimum wage red-eyed rookies that have no long term incentive to keep their job much less do it well.
Old Apr 20, 2010 | 12:34 PM
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Maybe the commercials aren't ready.

Steve McQueen is still in contract dispute.
Old Apr 20, 2010 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by desertMustang
Agreed. If a delayed auto ordered is what constitutes a big problem in one's life, then they're doing okay.
+1

I consider myself extremely lucky to not only have the means to buy this amazing new car, but that these delays are the only real stress in my life.

Now, I count myself as one among the crowd of people who are anxiously awaiting news of my new car. I just hope the rest of the crowd can appreciate how lucky we are, as I do.
Old Apr 20, 2010 | 12:43 PM
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Where do they get off thinking they should get a lunch!!

Non-union scabs don't need no stinkin' lunch or breaks. They're some working fools.
Yeah! And everyone knows underpaid, exhausted and endangered workers do the finest work!
Old Apr 20, 2010 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Skotty
Which motor?

GT -- Brand new motor (mostly), though built off of prior knowledge. Developed on a shortened timeframe. Sure, be worried if you want. But it's still one kick butt motor and any issues, if there are any, will probably be minor and will be covered under warranty.

V6 -- A few differences perhaps, but it's almost the same engine that has already been used in many other cars. Not much to worry about there.

In the end, I think the incredible advancements of the new drivetrain by far..by herculean leaps and bounds... outweigh a little worry about them being new.
Thanks for the insight. That's exactly what I was curious about/debating.
Old Apr 20, 2010 | 12:45 PM
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You don't want the same problems the first Camaro SS buyers had? LOL
That was pretty darn amusing, I must say. If your buying a $30k+ car, it better be right.
Old Apr 20, 2010 | 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by cdynaco
Some seem to forget that Ford tested the new 5.0 at WOT for how many hours/days??? (Wasn't that in the MM&FF article/thread?) No worries..
Well that's the engineering portion of it.
The manufacturing portion of it can change that success/failure.

Say for example, I build the engine and give you the specs after its tested countless hours.
If its built to spec...its good... if you make it wrong, doesn't do much good does it?

What they are doing or fixing right now, would be the known errors....so that they don't give you problems when you get the car.... That's a good thing.
The unknown stuff, is the stuff that will creep up, if anything (and there will be, regardless how small... issues)

No car is free of TSBs
Even after it ships, if a TSB is raised, your car should get it before your delivery.
I wouldn't worry about anything.

The waiting sucks, whether there was an issue or not.

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Old Apr 20, 2010 | 12:45 PM
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This thread is f'n hilarious.
Old Apr 20, 2010 | 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Boomer
Well that's the engineering portion of it.
The manufacturing portion of it can change that success/failure.

Say for example, I build the engine and give you the specs after its tested countless hours.
If its built to spec...its good... if you make it wrong, doesn't do much good does it?
True... but that same thing could happen on the 4.6, or any engine on the line - not just new engines - if the engine builders and QC are not fulfilling their assignment to spec.

Thanx!
Old Apr 20, 2010 | 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by GTJOHN
You don't want the same problems the first Camaro SS buyers had? LOL
That was pretty darn amusing, I must say. If your buying a $30k+ car, it better be right.
You mean the Nose Cracks?
Old Apr 20, 2010 | 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by RMS70
Another reason I am glad I bought a 2010 instead of waiting on the 2011.
What other surprises will show up later?
your resale value
Old Apr 20, 2010 | 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by super6stang
Most likely your unobstructed view of 2011 tail-lights pulling away from you.
DOH!! Low blow!!
Old Apr 20, 2010 | 01:40 PM
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Maybe this will cheer some people up..

The 5.0 is back!!!

And they are making sure its ready to kick some slowmaro ***

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