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Old Apr 9, 2011 | 12:45 PM
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Gotta leave something for the Boss and GT500 to stick under the rear
285 isn't even enough for the GT500
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Old Apr 9, 2011 | 01:07 PM
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I really don't understand the "wheel-hop issue". To me its like complaining that the wheels spin too much. I can launch hard and the wheels stick beautifully.

If you're getting wheel-hop, you arent launching properly. I do have the brembo suspension with the sticky p-zero's tho.
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Old Apr 9, 2011 | 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Jott
I really don't understand the "wheel-hop issue". To me its like complaining that the wheels spin too much. I can launch hard and the wheels stick beautifully.

If you're getting wheel-hop, you arent launching properly. I do have the brembo suspension with the sticky p-zero's tho.
That's not necessarily true. You can get wheel hop if you just go WOT in 2nd gear and start to spin the tires. It's a function of road surface, temperature, etc.
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Old Apr 9, 2011 | 01:56 PM
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I admit my statment was a little too general, but i believe my point will get across.

Semi-related: Was the argument of having different LCA's on the brembo pkg ever settled? Some say they're the same, just painted etc. Could this have an impact on some experiencing wheelhop vs others that are not?
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Old Apr 9, 2011 | 02:10 PM
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Well, traction is fine as long as you leave traction and stability control on. With those off, traction of course can be improved, or you can simply lessen the power with a tune. Maybe even restrict it to 4,000 rpm's.

To maximize traction, consider Nitto NT-05's or the like on the rear. Those can shave a half second off the 1/4 mile, which is a good indicator that traction is limited to a point. But I wouldn't say traction is bad by any stretch.

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Old Apr 9, 2011 | 02:59 PM
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Yes, they wheel-hop like crazy. In the circle track mags, they call it axle- tramp.

Whatever you call it, I'm sick of listening to my motor knock and the wheel-hop. As soon as I can, I'm trading this POS off.

And I'd like to jam some magazine articles up some auto reporter's fecal chute that gave this piece of dung such glowing reviews. Oh yeah, they get paid for that.
Or, like my GT, their's didn't knock or wheel-hop.
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Old Apr 9, 2011 | 03:01 PM
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I read somewhere that cars don't drive themselves, why is this?
Last I heard the gas pedal was operated directly by the driver. (except for toyota)
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Old Apr 9, 2011 | 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by fdjizm
I read somewhere that cars don't drive themselves, why is this?
Last I heard the gas pedal was operated directly by the driver. (except for toyota)
And your point is?

All we are saying (or at least all I'm saying) is that the cars are under-tired. It's common sense that we modulate throttle on our own for maximum possible traction... but if we actually had some tire under the car it'd be a whole lot better!
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Old Apr 9, 2011 | 03:42 PM
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Never any wheel hop here... What y'all are prob hearing is the traction control taking affect. Turn it off and learn how to launch it correctly!
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Old Apr 9, 2011 | 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Zachsblk115.0
Never any wheel hop here... What y'all are prob hearing is the traction control taking affect. Turn it off and learn how to launch it correctly!
There is a distinct difference between what traction control and wheel hop feels like.
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Old Apr 9, 2011 | 03:59 PM
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That's what I'm saying, maybe some people are mistaking the two. Cause I have launched my car many of times and never have had any issues
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Old Apr 9, 2011 | 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by dragstart
Yes, they wheel-hop like crazy. In the circle track mags, they call it axle- tramp.

Whatever you call it, I'm sick of listening to my motor knock and the wheel-hop. As soon as I can, I'm trading this POS off.

And I'd like to jam some magazine articles up some auto reporter's fecal chute that gave this piece of dung such glowing reviews. Oh yeah, they get paid for that.
YOU NEED A CAMARO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old Apr 9, 2011 | 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Zachsblk115.0
That's what I'm saying, maybe some people are mistaking the two. Cause I have launched my car many of times and never have had any issues
And what times have you been running? The Brembo cars definitely hop a good bit. Especially if it's cool out. Lowering the car seems to resolve the problem completely.
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Old Apr 9, 2011 | 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by SolidAxle
Or, like my GT, their's didn't knock or wheel-hop.
Mine DOES.
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Old Apr 9, 2011 | 07:38 PM
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YOU NEED A CAMARO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm thinking 'Vette.
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Old Apr 9, 2011 | 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by dragstart

I'm thinking 'Vette.
Nice

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Old Apr 10, 2011 | 05:56 AM
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"....As soon as I can, I'm trading this POS off."

Was, at first upset by that comment. But now, I see, or believe, it was made to instill a little conjecture here....thus the thread comes alive.

OEM tires on a GT or better, are for breaking it in. PERIOD. Down here I sure don't need, nor want, All Season tires. So for me they are are for experimenting. Burn em up. Sooner they're gone the better, but to waste good mod money for an early change aint happening here. So, drop the air pressure out back, and drop the clutch. Then get your Nitto's. :-) (after your, tune, suspension, and other goodies of course)
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Old Apr 10, 2011 | 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Big Vito
Nice
I had a Chevette at one time, loved it.........no kidding.

Added bonus.........THE ENGINE MADE NO NOISE, LIKE KNOCKING WHEN COLD.
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Old Apr 10, 2011 | 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by FLAstangx3
"....As soon as I can, I'm trading this POS off."

Was, at first upset by that comment. But now, I see, or believe, it was made to instill a little conjecture here....thus the thread comes alive.

OEM tires on a GT or better, are for breaking it in. PERIOD. Down here I sure don't need, nor want, All Season tires. So for me they are are for experimenting. Burn em up. Sooner they're gone the better, but to waste good mod money for an early change aint happening here. So, drop the air pressure out back, and drop the clutch. Then get your Nitto's. :-) (after your, tune, suspension, and other goodies of course)
I've decided not to trade it off..............it's going on Craigslist today. But all you 5.0 lovers on here have first dibs.

Race Red, manual, 3:73s, Brembo, 5,000 miles, 400A. Steeda CAI and tuner (not installed), GT500 mufflers. It has not been run hard excessively.
It has the cold engine 'rattle', but hey.......that's normal, right?
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Old Apr 10, 2011 | 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by dragstart
I've decided not to trade it off..............it's going on Craigslist today. But all you 5.0 lovers on here have first dibs.

Race Red, manual, 3:73s, Brembo, 5,000 miles, 400A. Steeda CAI and tuner (not installed), GT500 mufflers. It has not been run hard excessively.
It has the cold engine 'rattle', but hey.......that's normal, right?
How much for this POS ! Don't forget to include the followings as well :

- starter over run
-notchy shifter
-under hood " tick"
-flywheel bolts backing out
-wrong tranny fluid
-bad synchros
-rear end whining
-orange peel in the paint
-vibration at 100 mph +


Good luck with the sale !
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