The PJ 5.0 is rated at 400hp advertised, but the dynos that I've seen show that number to be over-rated (roughly 20 hp at the crank). I am looking forward to see what Ford can do.

 

Overated?
As in they show 380@crank?

Or underated
420@crank?

 

I think your just taking Boomer's response too seriously. I can't imagine he meant any offense and I think the language in his post which you likely interpreted as being a bit 'short'...specifically the 'thank you, carry on' comment.....was actually intended to be more light hearted than you assume. IMO the rest of the post was just a legit reference to the fact that the answer any questions the poster may have about the upcoming 5.0L V8 could be found in the sticky above, or at least what we know about it can be.

 

Over-rated, as in Saleen isn't honest with the numbers. They are making 380 at the crank.

 

GUESS YOU DIDN'T READ TODAY'S PAPER!

 

 

Just for the record: Boomer isn't the type of person who's known for being offensive towards anybody. For it seems to me, that you somehow just misunderstood his response to the poster's question, in which he was actually being humorous, when he posted the Thank you, carry on quote.

 

I admin it, so yeah I guess

People may have questions, but rather than having multiple threads and multiple responses on the same question/issue, I just mearly pointed to the source of all information we have.

Just trying to keep the forum clean folks

I try not to tick people off, but I'm sure I'll rub someone the wrong way one time or another

 

Just show me a next time and no harm no foul. MustangBoss429 is kind of new here and I didn't want him to get the wrong idea about the site. I love sarcasm, but it can be hard to discern in text. On a lighter note thanks for all you do Boomer for keeping us up to date on the 2010.



Gary

 

 

I read the same thing. I heard saleen was trying to say it was 400hp using the old 15% drivetrain loss and saying 340rwhp would be 400hp. when in reality the current stang is around 12% loss giving the engine around 386hp.

 

That make more sense... I bet Ford will release the 5.0 with 350 hp (detuned).

 

IMO that doesn't make any sense at all. In other words, if Ford is just going to add 50 more HP, then why even bother replacing the current 4.6L to begin with.

The 2010+ needs at least 400HP, in order to keep pace with the upcoming base Challenger R/T, and base Camaro V8.

 

The Challenger R/T will have 370 hp and the Camaro is supposed to get 400 hp. Since when has the Mustang GT competed on the same level? IIRC the Mustang GT was never faster than the F-body for the same model year.

It makes much more sense for Ford to include a 350 hp engine than to jump ahead and make a 400 hp engine.

98-98 GT: 215 hp
99-04 GT: 260 hp
05-09 GT: 300 hp
10-1x GT: 340-350 hp? vs 400 hp

 

What doesn't make sense is failing to keep up with the competition again, just because something was done one way in the past doesn't mean it should be done that way in the future.

You can buy the V6.

 

I am just saying that a 400 hp GT would be inconsistent with the Mustang branding. It was never intended to be the fastest pony/muscle car. It would also be harder for Ford to back up a 400 hp 5.0 3V/4V V8 with a 5 year / 60k powertrain warranty. A 350 hp V8 would be more conservatively tuned and is aligned with Ford's modus operandi.

 

If Ford waits till 2011 for the 302, 2010 won't go over big in sales. The magazines will have a field day with it. Car and Driver is already saying 6.2 400 HP in 2010. Those guys are setting the average reader up for a letdown if the 4.6 is still there. The Camaro and Challenger will be gobbling up lots of sales with their offerings by then. If the 4.6 "Is Dead" why put it in the "New" 2010 especially with the competition in full speed by then? I think it would be a big mistake to string along the 4.6 in 2010. Just my opinion. I want a 2010 and I want the 5.0

 

The Challenger R/T automatic will have 370hp, while the manual will have 375hp. When looking at the options for the Camaro, its going to be in the 360hp-400hp range - most likely 400hp. The V6 Camaro is rumored to have a 300hp V6.

The Mustang is one of the few "hits" Ford has had recently. It would be a huge mistake for Ford to sit around with their hands in their pockets.
Its imperative that Ford keeps up or surpasses the competition. I've always been a Ford and Mustang guy, but I have to admit, I am a bit wary at this point.

 

I'm confident as long as they stick with the 'plan' we've heard..

Just too bad that plan doesn't come in 1 year earlier..

 

A couple months ago, my source told me February 2010. I am foolishly hoping that things speed up, and we see it in fall 2009.