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Old Jan 21, 2013 | 11:53 PM
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35k boss or 30k GT-P ??

I sold my 2011 gt- premium last month and have come full circle back to the mustang. I drove an Evo X and tried to like it, but can't.

I found a 2012 Boss with 15k miles for $35k but am hesitant thinking it has been beat-on by the previous owner.

I was about to do it when I found a brembo 2013 GT premium with 6k miles for 30k and now I am stuck. I can get a boss LS suspension for under 800$ from a buddy.

In your eyes, Is the boss worth the extra $4000? :/
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Old Jan 21, 2013 | 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Musker
I sold my 2011 gt- premium last month and have come full circle back to the mustang. I drove an Evo X and tried to like it, but can't.

I found a 2012 Boss with 15k miles for $35k but am hesitant thinking it has been beat-on by the previous owner.

I was about to do it when I found a brembo 2013 GT premium with 6k miles for 30k and now I am stuck. I can get a boss LS suspension for under 800$ from a buddy.

In your eyes, Is the boss worth the extra $4000? :/
Yes. Yes it is. I love my car but love can't turn it into a boss.
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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 12:00 AM
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You can get all the parts to make a boss but it wont be the same as coming off the assembly line as a Boss. Tbh though id take the GT-P because id DD it and id want all the creature comforts and accessories i could have. Thats just me though
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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 12:34 AM
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Oh, and the GT-P is certified pre-owned. I can't stand the 2013 grill, though. The fog lights look like spectacles =\
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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 12:48 AM
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Oh, and the GT-P is certified pre-owned. I can't stand the 2013 grill, though. The fog lights look like spectacles =\
Tht can always be changed!
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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 02:37 AM
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GT motor vs Boss motor, two completely different engines. A GT with suspension is just that and nothing more, a Boss is the complete package.
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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 03:44 AM
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GT motor vs Boss motor, two completely different engines. A GT with suspension is just that and nothing more, a Boss is the complete package.
It's the same engine, different IM.

Boss has a ton of suspension differences that were designed to work together but you could pick & choose the parts you want on a GT. For $4k though Id say Boss unless it's a DD, in which case, Id get the GT & put the $ towards mods b/c you dont wanna waste DD miles on a Boss.
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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 06:04 AM
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Originally Posted by wheelman

It's the same engine, different IM.

Boss has a ton of suspension differences that were designed to work together but you could pick & choose the parts you want on a GT. For $4k though Id say Boss unless it's a DD, in which case, Id get the GT & put the $ towards mods b/c you dont wanna waste DD miles on a Boss.
Internals
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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 06:42 AM
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Does the GT-P have 18 or 19" wheels? Brembo brakes or not? The handling you will get from the Boss is much tighter than a standard GT on 18's, I can tell the big difference between my wife's '11 GT and my '13 Boss.

If you think the GT and Boss motors are the same, I respectfully disagree. The forged internals, and massaged cylinder heads are just the beginning of what you get with the Boss motor.

Check and see if the Boss is still riding on the original OEM Pirelli tires, and check the tread depth on the rears if it does. The 15k miles may represent mostly highway miles. You can also have a look at the 'Trip B' odometer readings and look at the miles and avg MPG. If the orig owner never reset it, or hardly ever used it, you can figure out if the guy was redlining it every shift, driving it moderately, or babying it on the highway. MPG readings in the single digits over many thousands of miles? Lots of high RPM shifting - not necessarily a bad thing - the motor was designed to take it. MPG in the mid to low teens - normal Boss driving. MPG in the high teens - mostly highway driving. I know this because at least 70% of my 8k miles were highway and my overall MPG since new is around 19.

Does the Boss have any mods on it, or bone stock? Take it for a test drive and see if you think the 4k extra is worth it (esp if you spread that amount over the life a loan).
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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 07:54 AM
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Get the boss there's no substitute
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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 08:09 AM
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My bad, was just having this discussion too and corrected someone on the subject, was thinking it was only GT500 with forged internals for a sec there, hate giving bad info. It's not a whole different engine though.

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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 08:37 AM
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I would go boss. I first became aware of the boss right after I bought my GT. I would likely have waited had I known. BOSS.
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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 08:49 AM
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"beat on"? Ha! This engine went thru "accelerated wear testing, the equivalent of 275 Grand Am or 150 Daytona 500 races, without a failure." - Undercover Boss, 5.0 Mustang & Super Fords, August 2011.
I think you'll be okay
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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by wheelman

It's the same engine, different IM.

Boss has a ton of suspension differences that were designed to work together but you could pick & choose the parts you want on a GT. For $4k though Id say Boss unless it's a DD, in which case, Id get the GT & put the $ towards mods b/c you dont wanna waste DD miles on a Boss.
Not even close. Boss motor has totally different heads and internals, along with the different IM.
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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Overboost

Not even close. Boss motor has totally different heads and internals, along with the different IM.
I guess we have different definitions of, "not even close". I said internals should have been mentioned; it was a quick response to "different engine". (I think we also differed on the def of different engine, lol.) All I meant was its not a whole different engine, like the 5.8 or something you cant steal from. I was not putting the Boss down in any way.

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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 11:56 AM
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I would go BOSS even if it is your daily. Why buy a car not to enjoy it as much as you can. Like was said before...it can take it. It really comes down to the drive. I love my 13 TP GT but if I had the chance...BOSS all day even as my daily but that's just me. I don't in any way see miles being a "waste" when you are driving an icon around for your own personal enjoyment. It's not like you are buying it just to look at it with 20 miles on the OD in your garage and trailer it to shows as what I personally would consider a not so smart investment. Who really has that kind of loot anyway? You only live once brother. Make it count.
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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 02:24 PM
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Another vote for the Boss.
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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 04:31 PM
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Depending on the options I would personally go for the GT. I love the BOSS and think they're awesome cars. I just love creature comforts and the cheaper price of the GT.

PS-I'm not a fan of the stock 2013 GT grill either, but the GT/CS or GT500 fascias make it work!
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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by stangfoeva
Depending on the options I would personally go for the GT. I love the BOSS and think they're awesome cars. I just love creature comforts and the cheaper price of the GT.

PS-I'm not a fan of the stock 2013 GT grill either, but the GT/CS or GT500 fascias make it work!
Couldnt have said it better myself!
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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 04:58 PM
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Boss.
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