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Old May 21, 2012 | 09:34 AM
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2013 CAI standard on all models?

Would there be any benefit to getting an Airraid CAI?
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Old May 21, 2012 | 09:39 AM
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Unless your getting a tune, I wouldn't bother.
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Old May 21, 2012 | 10:27 AM
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Unless your getting a tune, I wouldn't bother.
Agreed... just worried about voiding the warranty.
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Old May 21, 2012 | 10:35 AM
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The CAI that comes stock in the cars really isn't a big restriction. IMO wait on it until you are comfortable voiding the warranty
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Old May 21, 2012 | 10:57 AM
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I was told by ford the only reason it would void your warranty if it caused the damage and it would be hard for a cai to damage your engine, I even have a bama runner and when it does go into the shop i just return the tune to stock and they never know
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Old May 21, 2012 | 11:33 AM
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this has been covered many times. Search and you will find about 2 dozen threads on it.

Yes they do know on the new cars since the emu keeps a count of reflashes. Also its not the cai that voids the warranty but the tune that voids it. The no tune cais really do not add more then a drop in K&N. The only no tune cai that has any value would be the roush one.
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Old May 21, 2012 | 11:37 AM
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I have a question for those who have tuned their cars....if it improves performance so much why doesn't Ford use the same tune...do they cause harm to the engine? Is there a downside to them?
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Old May 21, 2012 | 11:50 AM
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Ford has to pander to a wide variety of people when they come up with their tunes. It is basically a good middle ground for everyone involved. Not only do they have to keep the car peppy enough for your average user they have to maximize fuel efficiency in the tune, meet CAFE regulations, and try to exceed the MPGs of their competitors.

Aftermarket tuners don't really have to worry about any of that, all they are focused on is getting as much power as possible and doing it safely.
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Old May 21, 2012 | 11:52 AM
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pay to play.

I am sure some of it has to do with 50 state emissons. I am also sure its the engineers and bean counters totalling costs from extra wear and tear and the increased cost of warranty work.
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Old May 21, 2012 | 11:55 AM
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I havent found a down side yet to my Steeda tune, and a tune does not automatically void your warranty it has to be proven that the tune was the issue for whatever failure you had, but get ready for a legal battle. I researched alot on tunes before i got mine from steeda and they are the only tuner from guys offering e-mail or canned tunes to not have any failures. The driveability of the car was night and day IMO and i would get it again from just that aspect, the gained power is a plus. Best advice if you plan on tuning is go to your local dealership or the dealership that you would bring your car to for warranty work and talk to the service manager and get to be friends with him and be honest with him with what you have done to your car or plan to do. I had an issue with my trunk light that kept coming on and at first the guy was a ****, and he insisted that he check the ecu out ,IMO he was just trying to see if i had a custom tune or not and at the time i did not and was honest with him about what my intentions were. Long story short by the time we were done talking he was actually giving me recommendations on where to bring my car for my future mods and told me that if i needed anything just come see him.My only guess for his attitude change is that i was being honest with him up front

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Old May 21, 2012 | 11:58 AM
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then why does ford have a tsb out of motor mods? The dealership guys here on the forum disagree.
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Old May 21, 2012 | 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by ford20
The CAI that comes stock in the cars really isn't a big restriction.
I'm surprised they went back to the closed box (though it is a cold air setup) after they used the FRPP cone filter used in Bullitt.

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Old May 21, 2012 | 02:30 PM
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I'm surprised they went back to the closed box (though it is a cold air setup) after they used the FRPP cone filter used in Bullitt.
from 2010 on the stock airbox is true "cold air intake" meaning it draws cold air from outside the engine compartment, from the duct at the end of the grill area

I suspect on the 08/09 Bullitt the open box / cone filter was the best they could do without that duct, then in 2010 they didn't need the open box any more . . . plus I think the closed box is to keep the intake noise down; apparently they must have thought that all the "bad boys" driving Bullitts didn't care about that . . . or maybe there is some fleet noise restriction, and the number of bullitts was small enough that they didn't worry about it?

To the OP -- yes you can get improved performance with aftermarket intake such as the Airaid, but the improvement is not as big as on the older years because the factory intake is pretty good

The issue with aftermarket intake is that the MAF tube section is usually bigger diameter; so the MAF sensor will give bad readings unless it is "recallibrated" (tuned) ; and if you don't recalibrate properly the car will run lean which can lead to detonation which is bad . . . which is why Ford basically says "if you modify the car, all bets are off" with respect to the warranty

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Old May 21, 2012 | 02:43 PM
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from 2010 on the stock airbox is true "cold air intake" meaning it draws cold air from outside the engine compartment, from the duct at the end of the grill area

I suspect on the 08/09 Bullitt the open box / cone filter was the best they could do without that duct,
You are forgetting the special hood liner that seals the Bullitt's FRPP CAI to cold air only.
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Old May 21, 2012 | 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by cdynaco
I'm surprised they went back to the closed box (though it is a cold air setup) after they used the FRPP cone filter used in Bullitt.
Yeah I am very surprised that Ford Racing hasn't even offered a cone type filter, just a drop in filter
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You are forgetting the special hood liner that seals the Bullitt's FRPP CAI to cold air only.
Hahahaha I was just going to say the same thing
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Old May 21, 2012 | 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Bert

I suspect on the 08/09 Bullitt the open box / cone filter was the best they could do without that duct, then in 2010 they didn't need the open box any more . . .
The air does flow in under the hood lip into the sealed-by-headliner open air box in the Bullitt configuration.
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