Ltngdrvr

Used the wrong gear, funny to listen to it suddenly stop pulling when it hits the speed limiter...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQaDtTKaOi8

Ethanjbeau

Good numbers and I hit the speed limiter too the first time

Ltngdrvr

I really don't understand why anyone does dyno pulls without first removing the speed limit in the stock tune.

Then you could do the run in 5th and get the true number instead of an approximation.

I know, don't want to run the speed up that fast on the dyno but it can and has been done before.

Ethanjbeau

Well we didnt even know we would hit the speed limiter when we did it since we had never been on a dyno before and didnt really know how everything worked

I'll +1 myself for being a noob

Ted in Olympia

Just in case it disappears the RWH was 230.3 and the Torque was 232.42.

Very nice numbers; I bet this would be very close to a 350Z. Does anybody know if this is completely stock? I assume it is but I hate it when they do not say so.

TED

Ltngdrvr

All stock from what I could get out of it.

Plus those numbers you quoted were from the second pull, first was 240 RWHP.

trikwires

Do we know this was a manual shift car? I know it sounded like a single gear there, but sometimes when the car is rolling already like it is in the vid, you can get the tranny up in a higher gear. I could be wrong here...
The autos are less in power than a manual, so these numbers won't be exact on a car with the opposite tranny this one has.

t-ray

Depends on the year. For 6mt car, with the standard VQ35DE (2003-2004, most 2005 models), you'd be looking at ~230whp. For the revup version of the motor(2005 track, anniversary, and 2006 6 speeds), you're looking at ~240whp stock. For the VQ35HR (2007-2008), they dyno'd 265whp stock. All dynojet figures. Same numbers apply to the g35s, coupes and sedans.

Ted in Olympia

Kind of off track here but my son has a 2005 G35 auto and my wife has a 2006 350Z manual. I can tell you that the Z can will out run the G35 in every way; so I'm very surprised to hear that the RWD HP would be only 10 difference. I also driven the new 370Z and I could not feel any difference in power over the 2006 350Z; I think they weigh a bit difference and the auto rev shifting drove me nuts.

I have not driven a V-6 Mustang but if it feels anything like the 2006 350Z it should be a very capable and fun car to drive. I'm starting to see what I think are rental cars being sold for just under $20k, low miles, auto, sync, and leather. Would make a very nice daily driver.

TED

t-ray

A 6 speed 350z, when driven well, will destroy an automatic g35. Part of that is due to the weight penalty(~200lbs for the g35), and part of that is due to the transmission. Nissan's 5at was not very efficient. It just did not put down as much power as the manual. But don't be mistaken - from 03 till 06 (model years), the g35's were every bit as fast as the 350zs.

Sorry to go off topic. It's nice to see some numbers coming out for the sixer in the mustang. But I must admit that I am a little surprised that Ford is just now matching the power put out by the Nissan powerplants included in the Altima and Maxima eight years ago.

TTS197

That would be a good argument if prices where comparable between them back in the days,but they where not. I recall back then Z's where still about 27k+change for the cheapest most stripped down car they had on the lot and most expensive where going for 32k and change.
That's price point was closer to 03-04 Cobras which made 390hp.
I guess the same argument that you are using can also be used against Nissan in the same manner no?


The 350z was a great handling little car when if first came out. It made great power for it's time. It was brought back and redesign to compete against the GT not the V6's market share. Once the New GT arrived it made more power and lots more torque than the 350z.

How long do you think it will take Nissan to match the 5.0's power at it's price point since they now sell close in price and Ford's V6 is nibbling at their heal for lots less?

It'll start taking notice of Nissan again when they can produce an engine that makes 400+hp, run neck and neck with the M3 and is priced less than Ford's 5.0. Currently they can't do either of what has been mentioned.

Sorry to High-jack the tread.

t-ray

I should have been more clear.

I originally came in to this thread to see the dyno numbers, because I was genuinely interested. Ted postulated that the numbers would be close to a 350z.

I responded with real-world dynojet numbers, only for the sake of information. I was not comparing the 350z to the mustang in any way.

I did however compare the previous 4 liter motor against Nissan's VQ. It's nice that Ford has finally put together a world-class v6 in the mustang. The previous engine did not compare favorably to the v6's offered by many other companies, not just Nissans.

topbliss

hmm something don't seem right. The 4.6 v8 was rated the same as the 3.7 6 but yet the 6's dyno some 40 hp less the the v8. Either the 4.6's were factory underrated or the 3.7's are overrated,,

sdsguy

they did the dyno pull in the wrong gear which doesn't give the proper read. you also have to remember, no 2 cars will be the same neither will two dynos. i remember seeing dyno'd gt's pull similar numbers as this v6 while others were getting 290.

Ltngdrvr

They also bumped against the speed limiter so they never made it to peak rpm.

topbliss

redline is where the rev limiter stops and hp drops off before that point so your point is incorrect.

topbliss

if one turns 230 hp and another 290 you better be suing ford cause in no way should 2 the same motors be that far apart

todd03blown

who are you directing this post towards? The guy above

topbliss

yes, Ltngdrvr

Dreamtheory

I put my 2011 3.7 V6 on the dyno before removing the Govener just to see what the 100% complete stock numbers would be..

267 HP
257 TQ

Govener kicked in at 111 mph. Tested in Drive and 3rd gear


and you guys have to remember elevation makes a big difference in your pulls