825LTRGT

Anyone know when the 2011 production will stop and 2012 start?

A dealer has a car with ALMOST what I want and their allocation is exhausted for this year. Only problem is that the car I'd want is the "joyride" car and is missing a couple things and the paint is not perfect (it's a black car). I'd probably be better off ordering one.

Any 2012 changes for the GT?

Thanks!

OAC_Sparky

Mid Jan. 2011
Won't find out until November when the Order Guides come out.

825LTRGT

Thanks.

I suppose it might be a better idea to find a dealer with some allocation left.

trcr1@grandecom.net

According to the Donlen Corp. :
Final order for 2011 11/19/2010
2012 Initial order acceptance 11/8/2010
2012 Scheduling begins 12/2/2010
2012 Production begins 1/18/2011

So, it looks like 2011 production will end the first week or so of 2011.

eas9898

With production starting so early on 2012s, I imagine they will be in showrooms by March?

5OH3OH2

1. I heard that the 2011 model year is an extended model year.
2. My dealer said that I could order one into May 2011 for a 2011.

Anyone else hear anything? January seems way to soon to switch over... After all, the 5.0 did not come out until April.

Fazm

plain and simple your dealer is wrong

tom_vilsack

sounds more like dealership is trying to unload a "joyride" car off the lot onto you...go to another dealership and order car you want....

jimb05

I wouldn't go for the "demo". They let me beat the biscuits out of the first stang I drove. I wouldn't have bought that one at any price.

I had a problem finding what I wanted too. I finally found one that had everything except 3.73s. The dealer is swapping the 3.31s for 3.73s for me. I worked it into the deal along with filling and painting the front plate holes.

See if you can find something close and maybe they can get you the rest of the way by either changing gears/swapping wheels/changing spoilers/etc. It is a buyer's market out there so the dealers should be clamoring for your business.

Driver72

Yeah to me it's quite ridiculous to make a 2012 model year GT 5.0 two weeks into the 2011 year when it's going to essentially be the exact same car as the 2011.
Makes no sense, whatsoever.

Maybe they'll start making the 2013's and sell them in November 2011 then too. LOL

JonW

Sometimes the OEMs juggle model years in order to satisfy CAFE requirements. Especially if there are no changes for the following year model.

RedWings

Typical old school dealer trying to make a quick sale of one on the lot. Many dealers here were the same way when the 5.0s starts rolling on to their lots. As soon as you started asking about special order they would avoid you.

Find a dealer that will order what you wan or use one of he many dealers on these forums that will take good care of you.

OAC_Sparky

It does, if you think about it.

• Boss 302 is a 2012. Not 2011. They didn't want to wait until Fall to come out with them.
• People order Mustangs in hopes to have them by summer because in a good portion of the country they put them away for the winter (mine included). There have already been posts on this board about people waiting for their cars now, "****, by the time I get it, it will have to go straight in the garage for winter!" By starting the model year early people may (hopefully) have their cars by summer (at least that's my plan).

Driver72

Yeah but the Boss isn't coming until spring correct?
Plus unlike the 2012 GT, the Boss is a new model, just like the 2011 GT was in March 2010 when it came out.

The smart thing would be to release the Boss in March or early April of 2011 as a 2012 and then a month or so later release the 2012 GT, since really all it is, is changing the model year designation on the VIN number and build sheet (and maybe adding a new color or something silly small like that.

This whole call it a new model number when nothing has really changed nearly a whole year before it's EVEN that year, is retarded.

It's like the magazines when you get your December (Christmas themed) issue the first week of October. STUPID! How about mailing out the December issue during the third week of November and have it hit the news stands the 4th week of November. What a concept huh?

OAC_Sparky

It doesn't work that way; because the assembly lines don't run two model years concurrently (except for special pre-production runs) you can't build the Bosses as a 2012 without full production at the same time. So it's all 2012 or nothing.

And we have no idea exactly what changes there will be to the '12s yet, we won't until November.

Why does it matter what "model year" it is, anyways?

Driver72

Resale value, it works against owners of 2011's as well as owners of the first 6-8 months of 2012's.

Look at it this way, even people who bought 2011's when they were first released don't even get 1 full year on their cars before they are considered 1 year old.
Further, anybody who isn't a big car enthusiast and won't even think about looking that may buy a 2011 off the lot in November or December (or worse early January 2011) will be thinking they have a brand new car since it's NOT EVEN 2011 yet, or just became 2011 (in January when they buy) only to find out a few weeks later the 2012's will be built.

They'll have a "brand new car" that is "a year old" weeks after buying. That would **** new owners off. And rightfully so, as it isn't even 2011 yet (those who buy in December) or JUST became 2011 (for those who buy in January).
90% of buyers aren't hardcore enthusiasts who come onto forums to learn those details of when production starts. And again, who would even think of asking about the 2012's if it's still December 2010 and you are buying a car that's a 2011??

Their resale value will plummet more than normal weeks after buying the car.

And 2012 owners who buy in the first few months of 2011 will have a lot more miles on them by say mid 2012 or early 2013 than what 1 year would indicate.

Buy the 2012 in January 2011, and drive it 15K in 2011, then drive it 7k in the first 6 months of 2012 and have to sell it because you lost your job or whatever, and you have to advertise your 2012 with 22k miles on it, 6 months into 2012.
Makes it look like you drove 22k miles with the car in 6 months. Your resale will suffer, as it looks and will be advertised as a high mileage car, even though it wasn't really out of the ordinary.

I just see zero benefit of Ford building the 2012 GT's in January 2011 for it's customers. It may not affect their bottom lines or income, but it hurts customers.
And that's not cool when the 2012's will essentially be exactly like the 2011's with probably very minor changes (if any). I know that hasn't been released, but there's no way they'll change much.
The 2010 got a remodel, the 2011 got the new 5.0 with other improvements including 6 speed manuals/autos and so forth. Ford is not going to put any more money into changing much of anything for 2012 except maybe a new paint color, or very minor changes option changes.
They will save it for the new car that's rumored to be a 2014 model year.

Fazm

i dont really get the argument. this is nothing new in the auto industry. if i was thinkin on buying in november, id wait a couple months and pick up the 2012

dmhines

Will Ford ever get back on the typical new car schedule where the new model year cars generally go on sale in September ??? It's kinda crazy that I can order a 2012 Mustang in 2010 ... and have it delivered in early 2011 ... the car could be almost a year old before it even makes it to it's model year. And no 2011 Mustangs will ever actually be built in 2011 ....

OAC_Sparky

Actually, 2012 production begins 1/18/2011, and if there is no substantial difference between 2011 and 2012 models, the changeover will be on the fly.

Driver72

Umm, actually it's A LOT more common for a car manufacturer to be releasing their 2011 models in October or November of 2010 than their 2012 models.

Exactly my point. I just think it's ridiculous what Ford is doing with the Mustangs.
It makes zero sense. Makes A LOT more sense to have a long 2011 production from March 2010 to May or June 2011, then begin the 2012 production mid July 2011 after the plant takes it's hiatus.
Even starting in July 2011 for the 2012 models is on the early side of normal, unless there is a complete remodel of a new car. In those cases when the remodel and R&D and pre-pro models are ready to go, they often release them shortly after that, even if it's early (like the much new engine/drivetrain, etc 2011 GT)
But as you said, not really even making 2011's in 2011 , but being able to order a 2012 in 2010 is just flatly ridiculous marketing and only hurts the customers.

Anyway, I'm said my peace here, cheers.