Notices
2010-2014 Mustang Information on The S197 {GenII}
Sponsored By:
Sponsored By:

2011 Mustang V6 Performance Package Boosts Handling, Braking

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 12/2/09, 12:52 PM
  #21  
Mach 1 Member
 
Dixie_Flatline's Avatar
 
Join Date: December 16, 2007
Location: West Chicago
Posts: 651
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by 1trickpony
Let my clarify I'm talking about manual transmissions here. I thought that was understood because you cannot get 3.73s in an auto. I have 11% in first, 13% in second, 11% in third, and 10% in fourth versus a GT with 3.73s for example. I guess that's like having 4.10 versus 3.73s out back.
I assumed manual, you said an average advantage but handn't clarified and Brian mentioned 1st was very steep. Therefore it could be possible that an average including a very steep 1st and no change 2nd, 3rd and 4th could still provide an average advantage. Which is why I asked.
Old 12/2/09, 01:37 PM
  #22  
Mach 1 Member
 
1trickpony's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2, 2005
Posts: 607
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Dixie_Flatline
I assumed manual, you said an average advantage but handn't clarified and Brian mentioned 1st was very steep. Therefore it could be possible that an average including a very steep 1st and no change 2nd, 3rd and 4th could still provide an average advantage. Which is why I asked.
Cool, I just wanted to make sure. The Auto does have a deep 1st gear but its pretty even after that.
Old 12/2/09, 01:43 PM
  #23  
Tasca Super Boss 429 Member
 
Five Oh Brian's Avatar
 
Join Date: November 14, 2007
Location: Pacific NW USA
Posts: 3,652
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes on 6 Posts
Originally Posted by 1trickpony
Did you check the math first? I was going to show all of the math but I'm lazy. The 2011 V6 with 3.31s has an 11% average advantage thru 4th gear versus a 2010 GT with 3.73s, a 25% average advantage versus a 2010 GT with 3.31s, and a 17 percent average advantage thru 4th gear versus a 2010 4.0L V6.
I did all of my math based on the automatic. Even though we (as enthusiasts) might prefer a manual trans, the V6/Automatic is the volume leader in the Mustang lineup, so I thought it would be most relevant to most buyers, IMO.
Old 12/2/09, 02:40 PM
  #24  
Mach 1 Member
 
Dixie_Flatline's Avatar
 
Join Date: December 16, 2007
Location: West Chicago
Posts: 651
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Five Oh Brian
I did all of my math based on the automatic. Even though we (as enthusiasts) might prefer a manual trans, the V6/Automatic is the volume leader in the Mustang lineup, so I thought it would be most relevant to most buyers, IMO.
Maybe that's why the new auto is rated with better MPG than the new manual. If it sells more, it helps average fuel economy, right? But what transmission do the auto journalists use to test for track times?
Old 12/2/09, 03:00 PM
  #25  
Mach 1 Member
 
1trickpony's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2, 2005
Posts: 607
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Five Oh Brian
I did all of my math based on the automatic. Even though we (as enthusiasts) might prefer a manual trans, the V6/Automatic is the volume leader in the Mustang lineup, so I thought it would be most relevant to most buyers, IMO.
I understand now and agree the auto will be the sales leaders. I'm looking at buying a manual transmission so I was looking at those numbers.

I'm just happy Ford is offering this kind of performance and this can only mean good things for the 2011 GT.

P.S.
It is hard to find magazine reviews for auto V6s!
Old 12/2/09, 03:02 PM
  #26  
eci
Banned
 
eci's Avatar
 
Join Date: August 16, 2006
Posts: 1,633
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
The auto is a "sales leader" not by the choice of people, but because that's what Ford wants to ship dealers. I remember looking at a lot for GT's a few years back, dealer said Ford will only ship him 1 manual for every 6 cars.
Old 12/2/09, 03:33 PM
  #27  
Mach 1 Member
 
Dixie_Flatline's Avatar
 
Join Date: December 16, 2007
Location: West Chicago
Posts: 651
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by eci
The auto is a "sales leader" not by the choice of people, but because that's what Ford wants to ship dealers. I remember looking at a lot for GT's a few years back, dealer said Ford will only ship him 1 manual for every 6 cars.
Reminds me of an old saying: there's an island with only two types of people, liars and non-liars. If everyone says they're a non-liar, how can you believe the ones who say they lie?

When I bought mine, the dealer said the GT has the highest manual take of the segment (whatever segment that is), of around 50%. Sadly, I think most things a dealer says is so that they can move whatever they have in stock without ordering a new car.
Old 12/2/09, 04:29 PM
  #28  
Bullitt Member
 
Captain Spadaro's Avatar
 
Join Date: October 30, 2004
Location: Romeoville, Illinois
Posts: 282
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Dixie_Flatline
Reminds me of an old saying: there's an island with only two types of people, liars and non-liars. If everyone says they're a non-liar, how can you believe the ones who say they lie?

When I bought mine, the dealer said the GT has the highest manual take of the segment (whatever segment that is), of around 50%. Sadly, I think most things a dealer says is so that they can move whatever they have in stock without ordering a new car.
That might explain why I see so many 4WD trucks at Ford and Chevy dealers, and hardly any 2WD trucks.
Old 12/2/09, 05:18 PM
  #29  
Tasca Super Boss 429 Member
 
Five Oh Brian's Avatar
 
Join Date: November 14, 2007
Location: Pacific NW USA
Posts: 3,652
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes on 6 Posts
Originally Posted by eci
The auto is a "sales leader" not by the choice of people, but because that's what Ford wants to ship dealers. I remember looking at a lot for GT's a few years back, dealer said Ford will only ship him 1 manual for every 6 cars.
The dealership I work for sold more new Mustangs in calendar year 2008 than any dealer in the NW. I've been ordering our new Mustangs for several years now and it used to be true that Ford restricted which Mustang model and commodities (i.e. transmissions) we could order. However, the last year or two, Ford has actually let us order any combo we want (except Shelbys, which are still allocation-based). Our hot seller is traditionally GT Coupes with the manual trans and we rarely sell V6's. For example, on our lot today, we have just one V6 Mustang (manual trans), twelve GT coupes with manual trans, three GT coupes with manuals, and two GT verts with automatics.
Old 12/2/09, 06:13 PM
  #30  
Bullitt Member
 
Captain Spadaro's Avatar
 
Join Date: October 30, 2004
Location: Romeoville, Illinois
Posts: 282
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Five Oh Brian
The dealership I work for sold more new Mustangs in calendar year 2008 than any dealer in the NW. I've been ordering our new Mustangs for several years now and it used to be true that Ford restricted which Mustang model and commodities (i.e. transmissions) we could order. However, the last year or two, Ford has actually let us order any combo we want (except Shelbys, which are still allocation-based). Our hot seller is traditionally GT Coupes with the manual trans and we rarely sell V6's. For example, on our lot today, we have just one V6 Mustang (manual trans), twelve GT coupes with manual trans, three GT coupes with manuals, and two GT verts with automatics.
How many of them have black interiors? I ask because practically every car I've seen in inventory of the dealers in my area has a black interior.
Old 12/2/09, 06:34 PM
  #31  
Legacy TMS Member
 
laserred38's Avatar
 
Join Date: January 6, 2006
Location: Bay Area, CA
Posts: 14,047
Received 166 Likes on 141 Posts
Originally Posted by Captain Spadaro
How many of them have black interiors? I ask because practically every car I've seen in inventory of the dealers in my area has a black interior.
Most have black interior at my dealer too. One with red, one with gray. However, Ford bases their allotments off of customer surveys and past sales. ALSO, it depends on where you are in the country.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Warrior316
Introductions
3
7/28/15 11:05 AM
MRGTX
2015 - 2023 MUSTANG
5
7/21/15 02:08 PM
Coyote5-0
GT
6
7/17/15 03:47 PM



Quick Reply: 2011 Mustang V6 Performance Package Boosts Handling, Braking



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 07:29 AM.