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2011 Mustang Gt: 6-Speed Manual vs 6-Speed Automatic Performance Difference

Old Jan 5, 2010 | 12:42 PM
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long story short, you'll be just fine getting an auto
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Old Jan 5, 2010 | 08:08 PM
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I believe that there is a differance in the rear end gear, the auto are supposed to have a 3:15 standard while the manuals get the old 3:31 rear gear. I think the gear ratios were also slightly differant. I have no doubt that the manual would be the quicker car with a great driver, but when you probably can cover the 1/4 mile in just over 13s in the auto, I really would not worry about the differance.
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Old Jan 5, 2010 | 08:32 PM
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I have owned 9 mustangs post 1986 and 8 of them have been manuals. I have a friend who owns a stock '06 auto and that car is plenty fast. The new automatics really get with the program when accelerating. For cornering, however, Ford does not yet offer an auto that can be held in gear easily like the tiptronic, dsg, etc. That would greatly enhance the appeal of an auto for me, as I am not a drag strip kinda guy, but I do like the convenience of the automatic for most of the driving I have to do. Not a big fan of paddle shifters, but I have always enjoyed manually selecting the gears with the stick in my wife's audi. Also cool how it rev matches.
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Old Jan 5, 2010 | 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Five Oh Brian
Modern autos are vastly improved, but this has not shown to be true for the Ford Mustang automatics yet. The old 3 and 4 speed automatics were notoriously slower than their stick shift counterparts. Even the 2005-9 5-speed automatics in the Mustang GT's were about 2 tenths and 2 mph slower in the 1/4 mile than their 5-speed manual counterparts. That didn't stop me from getting an automatic in my 07 GT, though, as I knew what to modify to make the automatic perform better than a manual.

Me too 4k stall.
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Old Jan 6, 2010 | 03:24 PM
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Me too 4k stall.
Nice! 4,800 rpm stall in mine (supercharged). It was 3,800 rpm's when naturally aspirated.
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Old Jan 6, 2010 | 03:28 PM
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The real answer is that Ford, in its continuing march into the 21st century, should offer a 7 speed DCT and blow away both the stick and slushbox.
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Old Jan 6, 2010 | 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by rhumb
The real answer is that Ford, in its continuing march into the 21st century, should offer a 7 speed DCT and blow away both the stick and slushbox.
I'm thinking CVT. Why shift at all? Just mash it to the floor and keep the revs coming!
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Old Jan 6, 2010 | 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by rhumb
The real answer is that Ford, in its continuing march into the 21st century, should offer a 7 speed DCT and blow away both the stick and slushbox.
I don't understand why either. DCT/DSG transmissions are the future.
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Old Jan 6, 2010 | 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by max2000jp
I don't understand why either. DCT/DSG transmissions are the future.
I agree that they are the future, but you must understand that the transmission design was complete months ago, ie. the past. Unless you have a flux capacitor, you can't make the future the past.

Maybe they will introduce one with an SE, in the next few years, which will then trickle down to the standard models in the following years.

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Old Jan 6, 2010 | 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by YSUsteven
I agree that they are the future, but you must understand that the transmission design was complete months ago, ie. the past. Unless you have a flux capacitor, you can't make the future the past.

Maybe they will introduce one with an SE, in the next few years, which will then trickle down to the standard models in the following years.
I actually do have a flux capacitor:

http://jalopnik.com/5135842/ford-pow...he-little-ones

Ford has the technology in Europe.
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Old Jan 6, 2010 | 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Five Oh Brian
I'm thinking CVT. Why shift at all? Just mash it to the floor and keep the revs coming!

LOL LOL LOL
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Old Jan 7, 2010 | 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by All-Or-Nothing
LOL LOL LOL
I'm so glad that someone knew I was kidding about the CVT......
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Old Jan 7, 2010 | 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by max2000jp
I actually do have a flux capacitor:

http://jalopnik.com/5135842/ford-pow...he-little-ones

Ford has the technology in Europe.
While it sounds great, a Mustang is not a small economy car like the focus. Compared to the mustang, the focus does not have a high torque engine. And Ford is delivering on their promise for 6 speeds by 2013. Just wait for the SE, which will probably have it, and then the following year, the GT will probably pick it up. If its a deal breaker for you, wait and hope it gets added. Its not a deal breaker for me, and I will be buying soon.
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Old Jan 15, 2010 | 10:29 PM
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is the auto a manu-matic? if so, does the throttle blip on downshift?
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Old Jan 15, 2010 | 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by rhumb
The real answer is that Ford, in its continuing march into the 21st century, should offer a 7 speed DCT and blow away both the stick and slushbox.
Originally Posted by max2000jp
I don't understand why either. DCT/DSG transmissions are the future.
They have thier place but what a bore. Maybe if I was actually in the business of racing for a living I might be more excited about them.

However I'm sure the days of having a clutch pedal and a shifter that moves in more than one plane are numbered, just as well I suppose, since people will be bothered to much while surfing the web instead of actually driving.
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Old Jan 16, 2010 | 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by max2000jp
I don't understand why either. DCT/DSG transmissions are the future.
2014 I bet.
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Old Jan 16, 2010 | 07:20 PM
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I think the dual clutch tranny is the future as well. Who doesn't want their cake and eat it too?
I would love the option of driving it like a normal automatic around town and selecting gears in the corners with the flick of a thumb, F1 style.
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Old Jan 16, 2010 | 08:44 PM
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Regardless of performance, I personally would choose manual just for the "experience" and driving involvement that autos or semi-autos can't match. My grandfather drove stick until he was in his late 60s, didn't buy his first auto until 1997. I intend to see if I can match him in that regard.
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Old Jan 16, 2010 | 09:32 PM
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I've had a number of sticks and automatics over the years and when I drove the 2010 Gt stick, it was

definitely fun. But it does get hard to eat an ice cream cone, talk on the phone, fiddle with the radio,

watch the GPS, look out for other cars?, and shift at the same time, although I know it gets done. LOL
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Old Jan 17, 2010 | 08:28 AM
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manumatic?

Originally Posted by nonsensez9
is the auto a manu-matic? if so, does the throttle blip on downshift?
Not seen any reference -
or hints in any pictures...
So seems very unlikely.
[ Odd ]
Perhaps Job 2?
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Ford [ L-M ] offered this in my Y2K Lincoln LS.......
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