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Old Dec 19, 2013 | 01:01 PM
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it did actually. 8.5's up front and 10's out back.
So the same size tire on different width wheels? Should be running 315's out back.
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Old Dec 19, 2013 | 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by TheDivaDanielle
it did actually. 8.5's up front and 10's out back.
It probably does for you because of your cookies, I however don't have that luxury and only saw 17, 18, 19, 20.
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Old Dec 19, 2013 | 01:23 PM
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255/35 up front and 295/30 out back. it's not the sidewall stretching that is from the sidwall contacting the inside of the wheel lip since apparently American Racing deems that a 34mm offset is adequate for a 20x10. any wider of a tire and there would have been significant issues.

The bending is pothole issues. the paint missing from the wheel well lip is from poor offset.
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Old Dec 19, 2013 | 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by TheDivaDanielle
255/35 up front and 295/30 out back. it's not the sidewall stretching that is from the sidwall contacting the inside of the wheel lip since apparently American Racing deems that a 34mm offset is adequate for a 20x10. any wider of a tire and there would have been significant issues. The bending is pothole issues. the paint missing from the wheel well lip is from poor offset.
Think you got the wrong offset. But the tire is still the wrong size for that wheel. There should be a much wider tread patch for those wheels. The correct size tire may have prevented that damage. The correct offset would have prevented the fender damage.
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Old Dec 19, 2013 | 02:19 PM
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Old Dec 19, 2013 | 02:22 PM
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Old Dec 19, 2013 | 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by AlsCobra
Think you got the wrong offset. But the tire is still the wrong size for that wheel. There should be a much wider tread patch for those wheels. The correct size tire may have prevented that damage. The correct offset would have prevented the fender damage.
well i went wider than retailers recommendations are, so i can't see how that would happen.

Everyone recommends and sells with their packages a 275 in the back, and I went with a 295. I really don't see or understand why you're adamant that I was somehow negligent here in choosing a tire size that was even wider than recommendations.

I didn't "get the wrong offset" this is what they are selling for a 05-14 Mustang in a staggered fitment.

Toyo also recommends a 10-11" rear wheel for those tires.
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Old Dec 19, 2013 | 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by TheDivaDanielle
well i went wider than retailers recommendations are, so i can't see how that would happen. Everyone recommends and sells with their packages a 275 in the back, and I went with a 295. I really don't see or understand why you're adamant that I was somehow negligent here in choosing a tire size that was even wider than recommendations. I didn't "get the wrong offset" this is what they are selling for a 05-14 Mustang in a staggered fitment. Toyo also recommends a 10-11" rear wheel for those tires.
I didn't say you were negligent. Just uninformed and sold wheels and tires that don't fit your vehicle correctly. Your car is lowered and if you don't have an adjustable panhard bar to center your axle, maybe that is why they contact your fender. If your axle is centered, then your offset is wrong by at least 1/2". I've dealt with tires for so many years that it just bothers me to see tires that fit the way yours do on your rims. Don't mean to upset you if I have, it's just a bad set up AM sold you and I hate to see that type of thing.
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Old Dec 19, 2013 | 02:49 PM
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Tires have become more like jeans over the years . . . the same size from different manufacturers don't "fit" the same. I run a 285 on my 18x10 rims and they fit perfectly flush with the rim. Though I could easily go up in size. I've run 295 in the past.

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Old Dec 19, 2013 | 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by AlsCobra
I didn't say you were negligent. Just uninformed and sold wheels and tires that don't fit your vehicle correctly. Your car is lowered and if you don't have an adjustable panhard bar to center your axle, maybe that is why they contact your fender. If your axle is centered, then your offset is wrong by at least 1/2". I've dealt with tires for so many years that it just bothers me to see tires that fit the way yours do on your rims. Don't mean to upset you if I have, it's just a bad set up AM sold you and I hate to see that type of thing.
yeah, the whole situation is a real pisser. Things are going to be different on the next set
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Old Dec 19, 2013 | 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by TheDivaDanielle
yeah, the whole situation is a real pisser. Things are going to be different on the next set
Do you have an adjustable panhard bar?
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Old Dec 19, 2013 | 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by AlsCobra
Do you have an adjustable panhard bar?
Yes.
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Old Dec 19, 2013 | 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by TheDivaDanielle
Yes.
Gotta shift that rear end just a tad unless it's rubbing on both sides.
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Old Dec 19, 2013 | 03:26 PM
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So the Torq Thrusts suck and are going away ASAP. I'm replacing them with new wheels. They're ****ty fitting, bend easily, and I'll be replacing the tires with taller ones.
Ouch! Bummer!!! 295/30 should fit OK on a 10” wide wheel. The bent wheel is totally symptomatic of low aspect ratio tires and potholes…not a matter of “if” but “when” you will bend a rim and shred a tire with a 25 or 30 aspect ratio tire on our wonderful roads these days. My personal belief is a 35 aspect ratio tire is about as realistically low as a daily driver should get and even that can be pushing it on some roads.

A 10” wheel with a 34mm offset should have worked with very minimal clearance on the outer fender flare. If the tire rub is happening on both left and right side fender flares, the offset is incorrect regardless of what the wheel manufacturer told you. If they call that right they should be building wheels for baby buggies not baby blue buggies~ If the rub is only happening on one side, center the rear axle with the lateral locating link.

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Old Dec 19, 2013 | 03:29 PM
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Old Dec 19, 2013 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Horspla
Ouch! Bummer!!! 295/30 should fit OK on a 10” wide wheel. The bent wheel is totally symptomatic of low aspect ratio tires and potholes…not a matter of “if” but “when” you will bend a rim and shred a tire with a 25 or 30 aspect ratio tire on our wonderful roads these days. My personal belief is a 35 aspect ratio tire is about as realistically low as a daily driver should get and even that can be pushing it on some roads.

A 10” wheel with a 34mm offset should have worked with very minimal clearance on the outer fender flare. If the tire rub is happening on both left and right side fender flares, the offset is incorrect regardless of what the wheel manufacturer told you. If they call that right they should be building wheels for baby buggies not baby blue buggies~ If the rub is only happening on one side, center the rear axle with the lateral locating link.z
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Agree 100%. It rubs on both sides, just a slight tad more on the right, which means i was like off 2mm from dead center.

My new tires will be 275/35's and 295/35's when i buy them, and after a year w/ the American Racing Torq Thrusts on it, I think I have it out of my system and won't do that style again.
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Old Dec 19, 2013 | 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by TheDivaDanielle
Agree 100%. It rubs on both sides, just a slight tad more on the right, which means i was like off 2mm from dead center.

My new tires will be 275/35's and 295/35's when i buy them, and after a year w/ the American Racing Torq Thrusts on it, I think I have it out of my system and won't do that style again.
Stickin with the 20's are are you also switching sizes?
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Old Dec 19, 2013 | 07:25 PM
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Old Dec 19, 2013 | 07:38 PM
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Stickin with the 20's are are you also switching sizes?
staying with 20's. I like the visual impact.

My problem is that it's a 100% daily driver and I live in a city/metro area.
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Old Dec 19, 2013 | 07:51 PM
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no, that is bare metal.
Bare metal that turned to rust? How did that happen?
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