Oh dude, np... anytime. Yes, I am one of those guys along with Steve (m4a1mustang) and Dan (secondhandloser) that have been receiving the brunt of mockery etc from our former Z brethren. I should tell you my story sometime. But I won't derail this thread further. Put it this way, after a 20 minute test drive of a 2012 5.0, I signed the papers to my Z. Just like that. Yes, it was THAT good. The 5.0 is better built, esp from the tranny and engine standpoint. Period.

 

I agree with this. Maybe when I see one in person my opinion will change.

Also, those wheels are horrible.

 

The 11-12 front end has been my favorite in a long time. The '13 continues to grow on me, maybe in another year it will be my favorite.

 

I have a cs ordered and I'll be the first to admit the wheels are horrible but.... Also easily replaceable. The rest of the cs package is what brought me to order my third cs. My 2012 is being repurchased by ford and although I had the option of another 12 I couldn't take advantage of current rebates So i decided to move up a model year. I agree that the 10-12 is a good looking car but when it first arrived most whined and complained about it as well. For me there are enough new features and cosmetic changes to make moving to a 13 my best option. For my 12 I added the boss splitter and the gt500 splash shields. (mods that many of us have done) now they both come standard. Many people wanted their 05-12 to look like the Shelby, now they have done that and poeple don't seem to like it. They painted the rockers for 13 like the 05-09 had, now no one likes that..? I remember when the 10 launched no one liked the plastic molding.. Lol point being is that two things play into someone liking or disliking something new or different, one you don't want to admit you like something because you won't be getting one, or your just not one for change. If you don't like what they did to the car for 13 don't buy one! If you love the 05-09 style there are cars a plenty for ya! If the 10-12 is your favorite s197 body style then go that route. We are all here because of the love we share for the mustang. I personally would never own a v-6 coupe but I'm happy for those that have made that car their dream. I know I just ran at the mouth here for a minute but I wanted to voice my opinion on what others have to say anytime something is changed or altered in these cars.

 

Made the following rage comic

 

I agree with you 100%!!!

 

Togan, 2013's GT's do come with fog lights. It's just the CS that eliminates them, just like any prior years.

 

Cs doesn't lose fogs, just moves them to lower fascia.

 

...and therefore, at night, no longer can ricers tell that a 420hp beast is flying up behind them with intent to dominate.

 

Ghost stripes = why bother? Solid all the way through or none at all.

 

Or a 1978 Chevy pickup with a brush guard... Lol

 

yeah I knew that... when I said what I said, I meant CS's lose the larger GT fogs in the grill and moves them lower.