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Old 9/22/08, 08:51 AM
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I think I would buy one
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The $$$ isn't there sadly. $25,700 for a subcompact seems like a rather large amount.
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The $$$ isn't there sadly. $25,700 for a subcompact seems like a rather large amount.
yeah ouch, i'll stick with my 40mpg $14,000 focus.
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Not for me. I prefer my ride to be a little more sporty. As to the price 65mpg at $25000? Hey some have pay more for hybrids with equal and less mpg. I'm sure some one would buy it. It looks better that a prius.
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most of the cost seems to be comming from the importing of stuff....why can they just re-tool a line here in NA and make it here?
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I'd buy one, the price isnt really too awful, considering you'd pay 40k for one of those disgusting priuses
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Too pricey.
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Originally Posted by codeman94
most of the cost seems to be comming from the importing of stuff....why can they just re-tool a line here in NA and make it here?
+1, they're having problems selling trucks anyway so why not retool & run with this I don't know anything about that kind of stuff and I'm sure it would cost a lot of money but they need to start thinking long-term and get something that people want to buy.
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If they started making them, and making a bunch of them, then quantities of scale take over and the price would be reduced. My question is, and I don't know anything about this, but why can't we make european cars over here to sell in Europe. Don't we cost less than a German to employ? It may be the tariffs are to high to export from here to there, but then shouldn't we respond with higher tarriffs on European cars. We've got to do something to get our automotive industry going without the eventual government bailout thats on the horizon. GM and Ford you need to fix your **** now, before its too late, because I'm not bailing you out if I have anything to do with it. You've already got my money for almost a dozen vehicles.
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With problems with unions I don't think Big 3 would want more factories in the USA.
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So Toyota and Mercedes and BMW and Nissan can open factories in the south, in right to work states, but the big 3 can't because the unions have their nuts in a vise, right? Well then I guess they can all go down with the ship together.
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I don't know what the hell are Big 3 doing wrong, but Toyota, Honda and Nissan are paying a lot less for their workers than Big 3.

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What I do know is that you are right about unions. They are paralyzed by them. They cannot afford a strike of all UAW workers, but cannot afford to continue to abide by the contracts the unions want. So they'll close plants and ship jobs to Mexico or overseas and then everyone, especially the unions will scream about corporate greed. I'm sorry but a job on the line cannot pay $140k+ in wages and benefits. The union that was meant to protect the workers interest is doing it long term harm. But I bet that union boss still has his job.
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It gets better MPG than a prius, and its not a hybrid. I think ford could get away with selling it in north america.
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I bought a 2006 VW turbo diesel Golf for the same reason. If Ford would have offered the TDI Focus or this new Fiesta in America I would have bought it. The only downside is the diesels don't get to ride in the HOV lane when there is only the driver like many hybrids and motorcycles do.
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Originally Posted by GT40 2
It gets better MPG than a prius, and its not a hybrid. I think ford could get away with selling it in north america.
...but kevin...think of the carbon footprint! *rolls eyes with sarcasm*
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Originally Posted by Red Star
I don't know what the hell are Big 3 doing wrong, but Toyota, Honda and Nissan are paying a lot less for their workers than Big 3.
A number of things go into this - primarily the cost of health care in the US. The monopoly of insurance companies has driven our healthcare costs absolutely through the roof, and as a result it costs a lot more to employ an American worker and pay for their healthcare.

A lot of the Japanese cars are made in Canada where the healthcare costs are built into the taxation system, which makes it a LOT more efficient. No insurance companies skimming billions of dollars out of the system and making it that much more expensive to actually provide care.

There are other issues, obviously, like pensions, environmental regulation, etc, but I believe the health care issue is the main.
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Originally Posted by V8Mike
A number of things go into this - primarily the cost of health care in the US. The monopoly of insurance companies has driven our healthcare costs absolutely through the roof, and as a result it costs a lot more to employ an American worker and pay for their healthcare.

A lot of the Japanese cars are made in Canada where the healthcare costs are built into the taxation system, which makes it a LOT more efficient. No insurance companies skimming billions of dollars out of the system and making it that much more expensive to actually provide care.

There are other issues, obviously, like pensions, environmental regulation, etc, but I believe the health care issue is the main.
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Originally Posted by codeman94
...but kevin...think of the carbon footprint! *rolls eyes with sarcasm*
I know you're kidding, but actually these diesels have a much smaller carbon footprint over the life of the car than a prius. Mainly due to the battery manufacture the prius is an absolutely FILTHY car to manufacture and get to market. I know you probably don't really care, just goes to show how people can get all jazzed up over things without really understanding them . . .

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