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Old Feb 14, 2012 | 08:40 AM
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Next-Gen Mustang SVO, Focus RS to share 2.3L turbo

Next-Gen Ford Mustang SVO, Focus RS to Share 2.3-liter Turbo-Four

The Ford Mustang and Ford Focus RS seemingly don’t have a lot in common. One’s a rear-drive, all-American musclecar, while the other’s a front-drive, European hot hatch. If the latest rumors are true, the Ford family might be growing ever closer. According to Top Gear, the 2015 Ford Focus RS will be powered by a 2.3-liter turbocharged I-4, which it’ll share with the long-rumored 2015 Ford Mustang SVO.

According to Top Gear, the 2015 Ford Focus RS hasn’t officially been given the green light yet, though engineers at Ford’s Team RS know exactly what they want. What they want is at least 320-hp driving the front wheels from a turbocharged 2.3-liter I-4. Ford Global Performance Vehicle chief Jost Capito told us back in 2010 that the return of the Focus RS, “depends on a lot of factors;” chief among them being a sound business case.

That’s where the 2015 Ford Mustang comes into play. We’ve already reported that a revival of the SVO moniker may be in the works for the 2015 Mustang. Using an EcoBoost mill, the 2015 Mustang SVO would produce between 250-hp and 300-hp from an engine based on the 2.0-liter EcoBoost I-4, with displacement likely boosted to 2.3-liters (as in the original SVO). This would allow it to compete directly with cars like the 2013 Hyundai Genesis Coupe, without stepping on the toes of it V-6 and V-8-powered big brothers, or the Focus RS.

Top Gear reports that the 2015 Focus RS would use the same EcoBoost 2.3-liter turbocharged I-4 from the 2015 Mustang SVO. Top Gear says that the engine would get an added boost under the hood of the 2015 Focus RS, bringing power up to the 320-plus-horsepower realm that RS engineers want out of the new hot hatch Focus RS.

Though many enthusiasts may cry foul over the lack of all-wheeldrive, that’s being done to save money. Ford could conceivably use the 2013 Escape’s all-wheel drive system since it shares its chassis with the Focus, but it reportedly won’t fit under a Focus RS without severely modifying the car’s floor plan. And besides, as Top Gear points out, Capito was never too keen on an all-wheel drive system on the Focus RS, saying that it added too much cost and weight to the car.

Instead, Top Gear reports that the 2015 Focus RS will revive the previous RS’ trick RevoKnuckle front suspension, allowing it to effectively put its power down without the torque steer that plagues many high-power front-drive hot hatches.

On paper the Focus RS and Mustang SVO couldn’t be further opposites, but if sharing a new turbocharged four-banger brings them closer, we welcome it with open arms.


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Old Feb 14, 2012 | 12:56 PM
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Old Feb 14, 2012 | 07:56 PM
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Hmmm.. that'd be interesting to see where an SVO Mustang would go, I'd rather it not be some watered down package though. When I think SVO, I think world class handling with performance to match a V8.

If they are going to slot it in below the GT, I wouldn't mind a hit in the 0-60 and 1/4 sprints but handling needs to be solid with the Boss as a target rather than a GT.
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Old Feb 14, 2012 | 08:16 PM
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Am I the only one who thinks that 320 hp on the front wheels (Focus RS) is gonna be terribly terribly bad?
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Old Feb 14, 2012 | 10:15 PM
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Am I the only one who thinks that 320 hp on the front wheels (Focus RS) is gonna be terribly terribly bad?
Wasn't there some pretty serious buzz that the next gen Focus RS would move to all wheel drive.
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Old Feb 14, 2012 | 10:27 PM
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Am I the only one who thinks that 320 hp on the front wheels (Focus RS) is gonna be terribly terribly bad?
I think it sounds unnecessary, and won't put it down very well. From that article, the SVO sounds like a cheapened, watered down version of the Mustang in general...I think it's kind of a step backwards, and I don't see the point.
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Old Feb 14, 2012 | 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by stupidgenius36
From that article, the SVO sounds like a cheapened, watered down version of the Mustang in general...
No, it's gonna be a premium over 3.7L V6.

Originally Posted by stupidgenius36
I think it's kind of a step backwards, and I don't see the point.
You'll get the same power as 2005-2010 Mustang GT, more torque and most likely 25 mpg city. Where's bad?
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Old Feb 14, 2012 | 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by jsaylor
Wasn't there some pretty serious buzz that the next gen Focus RS would move to all wheel drive.
Yeah, but the above article stated this ...

Though many enthusiasts may cry foul over the lack of all-wheeldrive, that’s being done to save money. Ford could conceivably use the 2013 Escape’s all-wheel drive system since it shares its chassis with the Focus, but it reportedly won’t fit under a Focus RS without severely modifying the car’s floor plan. And besides, as Top Gear points out, Capito was never too keen on an all-wheel drive system on the Focus RS, saying that it added too much cost and weight to the car.
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Old Feb 15, 2012 | 12:32 AM
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Motor Trend's far from 100% reliable these days, so I wouldn't set either the HP number nor FWD-only in stone just yet.

Personally, I want to know when Fusion gets this engine.
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Originally Posted by Synyster_Vengeance
No, it's gonna be a premium over 3.7L V6. You'll get the same power as 2005-2010 Mustang GT, more torque and most likely 25 mpg city. Where's bad?
"Using an EcoBoost mill, the 2015 Mustang SVO would produce between 250-hp and 300-hp from an engine based on the 2.0-liter EcoBoost I-4, with displacement likely boosted to 2.3-liters (as in the original SVO). This would allow it to compete directly with cars like the 2013 Hyundai Genesis Coupe, without stepping on the toes of it V-6 and V-8-powered big brothers, or the Focus RS."

From that it just sounds like a new base model. While there's nothing wrong with that, it's not something I'd be interested in.
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Old Feb 15, 2012 | 07:53 AM
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All Ford's EcoBoost engines are optional and extra pay, even when they produce less power than V6s (Explorer, Taurus).
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Old Feb 15, 2012 | 08:08 AM
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I think it's kinda cool. SVO probably will be closer to the 300hp range with all the bells and whistles. Maybe 30+ mpg. It could weigh around 3200lbs. 0-60 5.0ish. I'd rather see a 450hp shaker hood Mach 1 for 2015 IMO.

However I am a 320hp focus rs fan hands down.
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Old Feb 15, 2012 | 08:47 AM
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focus RS! yay!

they should make a awd fiesta RS thats a crazy sport pack with 275 hp
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Old Feb 15, 2012 | 09:35 AM
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focus RS! yay!

they should make a awd fiesta RS thats a crazy sport pack with 275 hp
Flagstang for president!
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Old Feb 15, 2012 | 04:16 PM
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I could go for a Focus RS with 320-HP. (Or even 345, like the 2010 RS500!) I would be willing to let go of my MS3 for a Focus in that range. (To paraphrase David Farragut, d**n the torque-steer, full speed ahead!)

I also have fond memories of the SVO Mustang. If the weight can be kept to around 3,100-lbs a 300-HP turbo 4 could be a fun package. I don't know if it would convince me to swap my GT, but I would at least have to give a test-drive.
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Old Feb 15, 2012 | 05:29 PM
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I like the idea of the SVO. 300 hp and 25-30 mpg's would be cool to see. My hope would be that its more of a special edition. Make it handle extremely well, much like the boss if not better to give even more of an incentive. It should be a limited run, however, 3 years like the 84-86 SVO (would be cool if they brought it out as a 2014 model, somewhat of a 30 year reunion so to speak).
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"That’s where the 2015 Ford Mustang comes into play. We’ve already reported that a revival of the SVO moniker may be in the works for the 2015 Mustang. Using an EcoBoost mill, the 2015 Mustang SVO would produce between 250-hp and 300-hp from an engine based on the 2.0-liter EcoBoost I-4, with displacement likely boosted to 2.3-liters (as in the original SVO). This would allow it to compete directly with cars like the 2013 Hyundai Genesis Coupe, without stepping on the toes of it V-6 and V-8-powered big brothers, or the Focus RS."

no, No NO.

SVO when it was out made more HP than the GT. With a 4 banger vs the 8.

They must get 450 HP out of the SVO in this iteration, or they may as well just keep the name shelved.

Also, it gets Porsche inspired wheels, and very much wholly unique front fascia and dual plane wing.

But that's just me. Carry on y'all.

/Had an '86 SVO... probably not a good car for me at the time...
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Originally Posted by houtex
"That's where the 2015 Ford Mustang comes into play. We've already reported that a revival of the SVO moniker may be in the works for the 2015 Mustang. Using an EcoBoost mill, the 2015 Mustang SVO would produce between 250-hp and 300-hp from an engine based on the 2.0-liter EcoBoost I-4, with displacement likely boosted to 2.3-liters (as in the original SVO). This would allow it to compete directly with cars like the 2013 Hyundai Genesis Coupe, without stepping on the toes of it V-6 and V-8-powered big brothers, or the Focus RS."

no, No NO.

SVO when it was out made more HP than the GT. With a 4 banger vs the 8.

They must get 450 HP out of the SVO in this iteration, or they may as well just keep the name shelved.

Also, it gets Porsche inspired wheels, and very much wholly unique front fascia and dual plane wing.

But that's just me. Carry on y'all.

/Had an '86 SVO... probably not a good car for me at the time...
I like all of it, especially the wing and front fascia
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Old Feb 19, 2012 | 01:34 AM
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I like the idea. Like the thought of such an engine finding its way under the hood of a Fox hatchback even more.
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Old Feb 22, 2012 | 11:20 AM
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If it makes 300hp out of a 2.3L-Turbo...
why even have the 3.7 at all.

2.3T
5L
5.8

Nice lineup...
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