2009 Ford F-150
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I don't like it. Recently Ford has established a pattern of showing slick, well executed concepts and producing bland, bordering on ugly, production vehicles. The 2003 F-150 was a good looking truck. JMO, but the 2003 SVT Lightning might have been the best looking full-size truck ever brought to market.
The Super Chief concept was the truck Ford should have produced and didn't, not this half-hearted refresh of the existing design.
The Super Chief concept was the truck Ford should have produced and didn't, not this half-hearted refresh of the existing design.
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When the newly designed f150 came out in '99 I didn't care for it, but it grew on me and now I own an '03, which as you know was the last year for that style. Now I love it! And I like the current design as well. I like the grill on that King Ranch Edition the best. Nice that they added the step up fetures that the f250 has too, although that protruding blue oval on the tailgate looks a little funky, couldn't they find somewhere else for the back up sensor?
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When the newly designed f150 came out in '99 I didn't care for it, but it grew on me and now I own an '03, which as you know was the last year for that style. Now I love it! And I like the current design as well. I like the grill on that King Ranch Edition the best. Nice that they added the step up fetures that the f250 has too, although that protruding blue oval on the tailgate looks a little funky, couldn't they find somewhere else for the back up sensor?
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What sucks about new F-150 is that engine choices (w/ same power) will stay the same.
How the heck is Ford planing to compete with 300 hp engine when pretty much everybody have much more?
How the heck is Ford planing to compete with 300 hp engine when pretty much everybody have much more?
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Although I am dissappointed with the engine options, I still think the truck looks fantastic. I don't get why people hate it, and I especially don't get why they like the new Ram, now that thing is ugly. They pretty much just slanted the front grill and added some duel exhaust. Neither truck is a huge evolution from their previous models, but I still feel that the F-150 is the best looking. Even if you aren't thrilled with the new look, it certainly isn't bad enough to suddenly be dropped to the bottom of the list.
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I'm not sure about the 4.6L, but the 5.4L is supposed to get a power bump in '09. HP isn't as important as torque. If they can get the torque close to the competitors, then they'll be OK until the BOSS engines debut in '10.
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According to this http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/au...hotopanel..2.* only 4.6L will receive power bump.
I expected at least 370 hp from 5.4L since everybody else have 260-280 hp.
I expected at least 370 hp from 5.4L since everybody else have 260-280 hp.
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According to this http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/au...hotopanel..2.* only 4.6L will receive power bump.
I expected at least 270 hp from 5.4L since everybody else have 260-280 hp.
I expected at least 270 hp from 5.4L since everybody else have 260-280 hp.
Like I said, torque is more important than HP in a truck. The current 5.4L makes 365. If it gets a decent power bump, it should be close to the competition.
EDIT: I read the article in your link and this is what is says about the 5.4:
Ford will not release horsepower figures for the 2009 engines. But it's fair to assume that they'll be similar in output to last year's motors. This means the 5.4-liter will make at least 300 hp and 365 pound-feet of torque.
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I hate waiting. Ford already disappointed me with new F-150's design (I like current model a lot more), I hope they won't do the same thing with engine choices.
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Looks great, and the refinement continues. Apparently they are trying to trim weight here and there, apparently after the new Tundra came out, Ford was like oh ****, I guess 500% stronger frame then Toyota was a bit of overkill. Anyway, if you havent driven a new 6-speed Expedition, you have NO idea how much of an improvement that is, even before the next gen motors arrive. 5.4 gets bumped to at least 310hp.
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Looks great, and the refinement continues. Apparently they are trying to trim weight here and there, apparently after the new Tundra came out, Ford was like oh ****, I guess 500% stronger frame then Toyota was a bit of overkill. Anyway, if you havent driven a new 6-speed Expedition, you have NO idea how much of an improvement that is, even before the next gen motors arrive. 5.4 gets bumped to at least 310hp.
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