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Old May 26, 2013 | 04:33 PM
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Mach 1 Shaker Delete vs. Supercharger

My friend has an 03 Cobra and is upgrading his supercharger. I have the opportunity to buy his stock supercharger setup off him for extremely cheap. What do you guys think, Delete the shaker and slap on a supercharger or not??
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Old May 26, 2013 | 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Black03Mach1
My friend has an 03 Cobra and is upgrading his supercharger. I have the opportunity to buy his stock supercharger setup off him for extremely cheap. What do you guys think, Delete the shaker and slap on a supercharger or not??
Would the supercharger even bolt onto a mach1?
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Old May 26, 2013 | 04:46 PM
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From what I've read and heard it would, I'd just n need to update my current tune
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Old May 26, 2013 | 04:51 PM
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Not bad idea but need a lot more parts for a Mach if trying to fit a Cobra supercharger.
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Old May 26, 2013 | 05:13 PM
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Looked on American muscle and they don't even sell and root style blower for the mach1's. if they were meant to use those kinda of blowers you know they would be selling them. They aren't even selling the root style blower for the older cobras. Has anyone done this before to give actual insight?

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Old May 27, 2013 | 12:54 AM
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I've seen plenty of Mach 1s with superchargers. You can keep the shaker on top for looks, but it won't serve any other purpose.
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Old May 27, 2013 | 01:23 PM
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Yes I have seen pictures of people doing the stock eaton swap, you do need a lot of the cobra parts for it to function.

As to it being safe well I'm honestly not to sure.

I know our mach 1 engine can handle as much as 8 lbs on a safe tune. But if a DD im sure 5lbs is enough.

Just not sure if I would want to throw a stock supercharger from another car on my mach without knowing if was or wasn't going to hurt my car.
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Old May 27, 2013 | 09:06 PM
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To put an 03 cobra blower on you will need:

1.) 2R3Z-6312-BAA Crank pulley /Harmonic Balancer
2.) 2R3Z-6C254-BC Supercharger Crank drive pulley
3.) 2R3Z-8678-BA Pulley w/mount Replaces stk alt. Pulley
4.) 2R3Z-8B603-BB Pulley bridge assembly for S.C.
5.) 1L2Z-8678-AB Idler pulley,timing cover LH side
6.) 2R3Z-6D080-BC Timing cover
7.) 2R3Z-6020-AA Timing cover gasket LH side
8.) 2R3Z-6020-BA Timing cover gasket middle
9.) 2R3Z-6020-CA Timing cover gasket RH side
10.) 2R3Z-10A313-AB Upper alternator bracket
11.) 2R3Z-10153-BA Lower alternator bracket
12.) 1U2Z-14S411-TA Electrical connector (alt. to harmness )
13.) 2R3Z-6B209-AA Tensioner on timing cover
14.) 2R3Z-8260-AB Radiator hose
15.) 2R3Z-8A593-AB Radiator hose
16.) 2R3Z-8K576-AA Radiator hose
17.) 2R3Z-8286-AB Water cross over pipe
18.) F8ZZ-6881-AA Cobra oil cooler adapter
Note: Use your stock gasket from your adapter or a leak will occur
with a Cobra gasket!
19.) 2R3Z-6A642-AA Cobra Oil cooler
20. 2R3Z-9002-AA Cobra fuel tank
21.) 2R3Z-9H307-AB Cobra fuel pump
22.) 2R3Z-6F066-AA Eaton supercharger & inlet / T.B.
23.) 2R3Z-9424-BB Lower intake
24.) 2R3Z-6K775-BA Garrett factory intercooler
25.) 2R3Z-9H486-?? Intercooler to S.C. gasket
26.) 2R3Z-9A758-AA Cobra throttle cable
27.) 3U2Z-14S411-JUA IAT sensor connector
28.) 2R3Z-9H308A-?? Intercooler pipe to heat Exchanger
29.) 2R3Z-6K683A-?? “……………………………………..”
30.) 2R3Z-6K683B-?? “…………………………………….”
31.) 2R3Z-6K683C-?? “…………………………………….”
32.) 2R3Z-6K683D-?? “…………………………………….”
33.) 2R3Z-6K683E-?? “…………………………………….”
34.) 2R3Z-6K683F-?? “…………………………………….”
35.) 2R3Z-6K683G-?? “…………………………………….”
36.) 2R3Z-8501-AA Ford / Bosche water pump for intercooler
37.) 2R3Z-9L440-?? Factory heat exchanger
38.) 2R3Z-8A193-?? Heat exchanger mounting bracket
39.) 2R3Z-6C693-?? 2each bracket clamps
40.) 2R3Z-9H308C --?? Lower manifold to intercooler water adapter
41.) 2R3Z-6F089-?? EGR Valve
42.) 2R3Z- -?? EGR Tube to exhaust manifold
43.) 2R3Z- 8N500-?? Water pump intercooler bracket

*** #29-35 are intercooler lines

My List:

1) all intercooler lines and elbows
2) intercooler fluid reservoir
3) heat exchanger and mounting brackets
4) intercooler
5) intercooler pump and mounting bracket
6) intercooler cap(mounts to front of lower intake and has 1 in and 1 out intercooler line)
7) intercooler pump wire pigtail
8) timing cover
9) every single pulley except AC and water pump
10) supercharger pulley bridge that a few idlers mount to
11) both belts
12) lower intake
13) IAC valve(that thing that sits on top of the plenum/elbow)
14) supercharger and plenum
15) alternator and both mounting brackets
16) alternator wire pigtail
17) throttle and cruise cables
18) throttle/cruise cable bracket that mounts on the blower
19) the whole vacuum assembly and the stuff it all plugs into on the driver side of the blower
20) main feed line coming out of PS reservoir(the bigger one going to the pump)
21) return PS line(the other smaller one out of the reservoir) as well as the sections that "T" to right next to the radiator and to the booster
22) pcv valve and hose
23) EGR valve
24) EGR tube
25) oil cooler
26) all of the soft radiator hoses:
a) upper hose going from the crossover tube to the radiator
b) the big long one going from the middle of the crossover directly down and goes into the thermostat
c) lower hose going from lower radiator to t-stat(about 10" long)
d) hose going from oil cooler to t-stat(about 10" long also)
e) smaller diameter hose going from bottom of coolant resevoir to t-stat
----> the last hose (e) may not be needed to swap
27) coolant crossover tube(hard U-shaped tube going from head to head)
28) fuel rails
29) boost bypass valve actuator(circular thing with on the rear driver side of the blower)
30) gaskets:
a) intercooler cap(mounts on front of lower intake)
b) plenum to blower(if you get a supercharger with the plenum on already, then you don't need this)
c) throttle body to plenum
d) IAC valve to plenum
e) EGR valve to back of blower
f) timing cover(3 parts to this gasket, and they are all sold separately)
g) supercharger to lower intake(this one can be reused if you can the the original from the guy with the 03)
h) you can also use your original lower intake to head gaskets. you just have to cut off two small tabs(one on each one). you'll see when you try to line them up with the 03/04 lower intake. no big deal at all, takes 3 seconds.
-----> you'll also need to do something for fuel. stock 03/04 injectors are fine. you can run a BAP on your stock pump, or swap to the 03/04 tank and dual pump setup too...

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Old May 27, 2013 | 09:36 PM
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Bluethunderhorse to the rescue again
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Old Jun 2, 2013 | 02:46 AM
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Originally Posted by bluethunderhorse
To put an 03 cobra blower on you will need:

1.) 2R3Z-6312-BAA Crank pulley /Harmonic Balancer
2.) 2R3Z-6C254-BC Supercharger Crank drive pulley
3.) 2R3Z-8678-BA Pulley w/mount Replaces stk alt. Pulley
4.) 2R3Z-8B603-BB Pulley bridge assembly for S.C.
5.) 1L2Z-8678-AB Idler pulley,timing cover LH side
6.) 2R3Z-6D080-BC Timing cover
7.) 2R3Z-6020-AA Timing cover gasket LH side
8.) 2R3Z-6020-BA Timing cover gasket middle
9.) 2R3Z-6020-CA Timing cover gasket RH side
10.) 2R3Z-10A313-AB Upper alternator bracket
11.) 2R3Z-10153-BA Lower alternator bracket
12.) 1U2Z-14S411-TA Electrical connector (alt. to harmness )
13.) 2R3Z-6B209-AA Tensioner on timing cover
14.) 2R3Z-8260-AB Radiator hose
15.) 2R3Z-8A593-AB Radiator hose
16.) 2R3Z-8K576-AA Radiator hose
17.) 2R3Z-8286-AB Water cross over pipe
18.) F8ZZ-6881-AA Cobra oil cooler adapter
Note: Use your stock gasket from your adapter or a leak will occur
with a Cobra gasket!
19.) 2R3Z-6A642-AA Cobra Oil cooler
20. 2R3Z-9002-AA Cobra fuel tank
21.) 2R3Z-9H307-AB Cobra fuel pump
22.) 2R3Z-6F066-AA Eaton supercharger & inlet / T.B.
23.) 2R3Z-9424-BB Lower intake
24.) 2R3Z-6K775-BA Garrett factory intercooler
25.) 2R3Z-9H486-?? Intercooler to S.C. gasket
26.) 2R3Z-9A758-AA Cobra throttle cable
27.) 3U2Z-14S411-JUA IAT sensor connector
28.) 2R3Z-9H308A-?? Intercooler pipe to heat Exchanger
29.) 2R3Z-6K683A-?? “……………&he llip;……………&hell ip;……..”
30.) 2R3Z-6K683B-?? “……………&he llip;……………&hell ip;…….”
31.) 2R3Z-6K683C-?? “……………&he llip;……………&hell ip;…….”
32.) 2R3Z-6K683D-?? “……………&he llip;……………&hell ip;…….”
33.) 2R3Z-6K683E-?? “……………&he llip;……………&hell ip;…….”
34.) 2R3Z-6K683F-?? “……………&he llip;……………&hell ip;…….”
35.) 2R3Z-6K683G-?? “……………&he llip;……………&hell ip;…….”
36.) 2R3Z-8501-AA Ford / Bosche water pump for intercooler
37.) 2R3Z-9L440-?? Factory heat exchanger
38.) 2R3Z-8A193-?? Heat exchanger mounting bracket
39.) 2R3Z-6C693-?? 2each bracket clamps
40.) 2R3Z-9H308C --?? Lower manifold to intercooler water adapter
41.) 2R3Z-6F089-?? EGR Valve
42.) 2R3Z- -?? EGR Tube to exhaust manifold
43.) 2R3Z- 8N500-?? Water pump intercooler bracket

*** #29-35 are intercooler lines

My List:

1) all intercooler lines and elbows
2) intercooler fluid reservoir
3) heat exchanger and mounting brackets
4) intercooler
5) intercooler pump and mounting bracket
6) intercooler cap(mounts to front of lower intake and has 1 in and 1 out intercooler line)
7) intercooler pump wire pigtail
8) timing cover
9) every single pulley except AC and water pump
10) supercharger pulley bridge that a few idlers mount to
11) both belts
12) lower intake
13) IAC valve(that thing that sits on top of the plenum/elbow)
14) supercharger and plenum
15) alternator and both mounting brackets
16) alternator wire pigtail
17) throttle and cruise cables
18) throttle/cruise cable bracket that mounts on the blower
19) the whole vacuum assembly and the stuff it all plugs into on the driver side of the blower
20) main feed line coming out of PS reservoir(the bigger one going to the pump)
21) return PS line(the other smaller one out of the reservoir) as well as the sections that "T" to right next to the radiator and to the booster
22) pcv valve and hose
23) EGR valve
24) EGR tube
25) oil cooler
26) all of the soft radiator hoses:
a) upper hose going from the crossover tube to the radiator
b) the big long one going from the middle of the crossover directly down and goes into the thermostat
c) lower hose going from lower radiator to t-stat(about 10" long)
d) hose going from oil cooler to t-stat(about 10" long also)
e) smaller diameter hose going from bottom of coolant resevoir to t-stat
----> the last hose (e) may not be needed to swap
27) coolant crossover tube(hard U-shaped tube going from head to head)
28) fuel rails
29) boost bypass valve actuator(circular thing with on the rear driver side of the blower)
30) gaskets:
a) intercooler cap(mounts on front of lower intake)
b) plenum to blower(if you get a supercharger with the plenum on already, then you don't need this)
c) throttle body to plenum
d) IAC valve to plenum
e) EGR valve to back of blower
f) timing cover(3 parts to this gasket, and they are all sold separately)
g) supercharger to lower intake(this one can be reused if you can the the original from the guy with the 03)
h) you can also use your original lower intake to head gaskets. you just have to cut off two small tabs(one on each one). you'll see when you try to line them up with the 03/04 lower intake. no big deal at all, takes 3 seconds.
-----> you'll also need to do something for fuel. stock 03/04 injectors are fine. you can run a BAP on your stock pump, or swap to the 03/04 tank and dual pump setup too...
Holy crap.
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Old Jun 2, 2013 | 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Blackbird.
Holy crap.
The second half is basically the same as the first, just generalized for calling salvage yards.
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