I need to put another 30000 miles on my car before I do this but which one should I go with. I am strongly drawn towards the TT option. I am aware more expensive but thats what banks are for right?
My concern is how much safe boost I could run on basically a stock motor and would I pass those stupid emissons tests for inspection.

I like the look of those numbers.
http://www.turbochargedpower.com/C&C%20Tuning.htm.

 

turbo is better but i know tons of domestic people are supercharger crazy..mostly because they don't know anything about turbos.. so i know i am going to be outnumbered here.

also you would want a built short block since the connecting rods will only take about 400 or so rwhp.

like the link you are showing that car has a built bottom end.

yes you can pass emission if you set it up correctly. Or if you run mil eliminators and your state only does OBDII test to pass it.

 

If it was me I would go with a twinscrew. Turbos make awsome power but require the use of engine oil for lubricant. Engine oil oxidizes far quicker when subjected to the extreme temps in turbos.

 

Oil Cooler...

 

I'm with Knight on this one...the biggest thing about Twin Turbo's over a charger is price, from my understanding. But for a bang-for-your-buck standpoint, TT is the way to go.

I will definately be looking at putting TT in my new 'Stang....

 

Considering building bottom out beforehand so I am deffo leaning towards the TT.

 

I am considering doing the install myself, maybe over the winter months. I have a limited knowledge of mechanics but I have large experience in construction. I know the two dont go hand in hand so to speak but I can handle a tool and grasp principles quickly.
Any recomendations? I REALLY dont want to shell out a bucket load of moolah on labor, that could go towards other parts.
Am I unwise even to consider self install?

 

Cent. Charger install is much more straight forward and easy (kinda bolt on and go). Roots style is more complicated. (removing the intake assembly/fuel rales, etc). TT is really hard. You have to remove the exhaust mani's, run oil lines to both turbos, oil cooler, BOV, Boost controller, lots of adjustments. Really TT is best installed/tuned by the pros. Turbos are capable of mad boost, thus the appeal, but also thus the problems with tuning. For example, a 2.0 4cyl can spin a garrett T26(very small turbo) to 22 psi before blowing its oil seals. (personal experience). Similarly (not exact) your 4.6 has 2.3L banks. Again not exact, but you could spin similar numbers with your exhaust. That kind of boost will turn your engine into spare parts. So a proper tune is necessary. Boost management becomes a large issue. If done correctly TT is the way to go, but if your in for simple is best go with the cent. charger.

 

Cheap supercharger anyone?

http://www.directauto.coresense.com/...id/7715?gRgSfH

 

Thanks for the advice. Now stuck in the middle again. Do I reach deep and get the TT installed by pros or do I fit the charger myself?
I guess I need to think about how far I want to go. I have a feeling I will fit the charger and then get bored and want more.

 

Get a Kenne Bell 2.2. From what Ive seen, you wont be dissapointed.

 

Here's my take on it all.

You can go alot longer on a stock bottom end on a mild supercharger setup (say vortech at 10psi, making 400rwhp). You will be happy with the power and may or may not want more down the road. They are proven setups and I have seen many cars go thousands of miles with no problems. (I've also seen some if not done properly and tuned correctly go a few miles and go BOOM).

On a TT Setup, its the ultimate for making power and trq. Its as streetable as a supercharger with the use of boost controllers and very effecient as it does not require power from the motor to "power" the turbos unlike a supercharger. The downside I see with TT is that its more $$, also you should install a forged bottom end from the start. If you dont, I almost guarantee you can get to your peak point on the stock bottom end with even a small TT setup, and you'll easily want to go to a higher HP amount since its easy to do with a simple twist of a dial. Once you get that addiction, BOOM. Dont forget, the more power you make, the more stress you put on other things and you'll break/upgrade them as well. (tranny, clutch, rear end, tires, etc..)

Im not saying going the TT route is a bad thing, its just alot more involved and costly especially from the beginning. You can use hte stock bottom end, but I would save myself the hassle of pulling hte motor twice and build it the first time.

It all depends on what you want out of the car. If you want an all out street rod that can make tons of power and get all the local yocal kiddies 'n all over you ride, go with the TT setup, especially if you have the money. If you want a fast ride, that is relatively safe on the car and is fairly proven to be reliable, go with a supercharger setup like vortech or procharger. Both have thier pros and cons.

 

This months issue of "Ford Builder" is talking about a TT install from HP Performance in a '97 Cobra...

Once they completed the tuning after install, it was dyno'd at 502hp and 475 lb-ft of torque.

www.hpturbos.com

BTW, "Ford Builder" put in 95 (yes, that's not a typo!) pictures of the install.

 

OK. Just to update. Looked at both options and I think I have to go with the SC option.
I really want to do the install myself and I dont really want the added expense of changing pistons, rods etc.
I like the look of the Kenne Bell very much, seen a few videos on the web and for the money it looks awesome.

 

deff go with a twin turbo my freind has a camarro and put a supercharger on it and he says that the twin would have been a better choice i am buying a 68 mustang fasback with a 302 in it i am def putting TT's on it

 

deff go with the TT's it will give u more power than the supercharger and its worth the money im getting a 68 mustang fastback with a 302 and im deff putting the twin turbos in it