SVTJackl

Hey Guys,

I should be getting my Stang back pretty soon and I am looking at getting new Rims and Tires. Just wanted to hear suggestions and see pics on what people think I should get (Size rims and tires). I am definitely looking at getting 5 spokes atleast 18" possibly 19" but 20" are too big and too little rubber around here for New Mexico Pot Holes. Also looking at the dow side of different size tires front and back. Is it a big deal that you can't rotate tires? Do they wear a lot faster because of it? etc.......Suggestions guys?

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friedmaster

Id reccomend 19s with a 245/45/19 tire on all four corners, well because that is what I have. It is a bit taller than stock, but that helps to get rid of the gap between the fender and the tire. It will also get a bit more ground clearance with the car.

IMO the sidewall hieght is very good, its not too tall like the 17s or in some cases 18s, and not too short like with 20s


The only drawback is that 19inch tires tend to be expensive, as they are uncommon.

Enfynet

I have 18x9 wrapped in 255/45s but you could go up to 285/40s out back.

SVTJackl

19's look very nice but I wouldn't go quite that high for the sidewall because I'm looking at lowering the car anyways. Very nice look by the way!

friedmaster

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(SVTJackl @ February 18, 2006, 6:16 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
19's look very nice but I wouldn't go quite that high for the sidewall because I'm looking at lowering the car anyways. Very nice look by the way!
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Thank you. There is still enough room to lower the car though imo, the gap above the wheels is a little bigger than the gap to the side of the wheels, and I would have had my car lowered if it wasnt for a couple of steep angles that I have to navigate every day. I would have only lowered it by like 3/4 of an inch or less, just to drop it down a bit and close the fender gap on top.

shatter

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(friedmaster @ February 17, 2006, 11:33 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
Id reccomend 19s with a 245/45/19 tire on all four corners, well because that is what I have. It is a bit taller than stock, but that helps to get rid of the gap between the fender and the tire. It will also get a bit more ground clearance with the car.

IMO the sidewall hieght is very good, its not too tall like the 17s or in some cases 18s, and not too short like with 20s
The only drawback is that 19inch tires tend to be expensive, as they are uncommon.
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I am too lazy to get out the calculator to determine before and after overall tire outside diameter. Anybody know what the before and after overall diameter would be?

On my 69 Mustang, I specifically chose a tire/wheel combination that was as close as possible to the overall tire diameter when I went from 14" to 15" rims (stock rims w/ hubcaps to Mag 500s). So I am wondering if the same generally holds true that the increase in wheel size is offset by a like decrease in tire sidewall height.

Thanks

friedmaster

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(shatter @ February 18, 2006, 6:26 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
I am too lazy to get out the calculator to determine before and after overall tire outside diameter. Anybody know what the before and after overall diameter would be?

On my 69 Mustang, I specifically chose a tire/wheel combination that was as close as possible to the overall tire diameter when I went from 14" to 15" rims (stock rims w/ hubcaps to Mag 500s). So I am wondering if the same generally holds true that the increase in wheel size is offset by a like decrease in tire sidewall height.

Thanks
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The stock tire is 27.17 inches tall, the new tire is 27.6 inches tall. I thought the fender gap was too big.

millerc73

Here are my 18" Konig beyonds with 255/45-18 fronts and 295/45-18 in there rear. Wheels are 8.5" front and 9.5" wide for the rear. I think that they fill up the gap pretty good now but still could use a small drop maybe from some steeda sport springs.

http://forums.bradbarnett.net/uploads/1137...391_1_97558.jpg

94tbird

i just ordered the Konig Beyond as well. i did 18x9.5 all around and used BFG 275/40/18's all around as well

Original Sin

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(millerc73 @ February 18, 2006, 7:06 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
Here are my 18" Konig beyonds with 255/45-18 fronts and 295/45-18 in there rear. Wheels are 8.5" front and 9.5" wide for the rear. I think that they fill up the gap pretty good now but still could use a small drop maybe from some steeda sport springs.

http://forums.bradbarnett.net/uploads/1137...391_1_97558.jpg
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Just my opinion George but I wouldn't do what this guy did. His OD for the front tires are pretty much stock height (26.97") but the tires out back have an OD of 28.31" - way out from what stock height should be. Hope he corrected his computer......besides handling, his speedo is gonna be way off.

Whatever you decide, stick to all 4 tires with the same OD....which of course means you can still staggar as Justin, I and most others have done.

Mark

Enfynet

Guess I'll attach it to this thread too...

millerc73

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Original Sin @ February 19, 2006, 1:14 AM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
Just my opinion George but I wouldn't do what this guy did. His OD for the front tires are pretty much stock height (26.97") but the tires out back have an OD of 28.31" - way out from what stock height should be. Hope he corrected his computer......besides handling, his speedo is gonna be way off.

Whatever you decide, stick to all 4 tires with the same OD....which of course means you can still staggar as Justin, I and most others have done.

Mark
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Yes I did correct my computer with my tuner and what about the handling? I don't have any problems with it.

Original Sin

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(millerc73 @ February 19, 2006, 5:36 AM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
Yes I did correct my computer with my tuner and what about the handling? I don't have any problems with it.
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Chad, as I said in the original reply, it was just "my opinion".....but an educated one. If you checked with major tire manufacturers or retailers, they'd recommend against an OD difference between front and rear that big. You might not notice the performance change(s) but in extreme circumstances, they'd be there. The computer can handle calibration changes and adjust (almost completely) for brake proportioning changes but the bottom line is that our suspensions weren't developed and tuned for a mixed "height" change.

millerc73

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Original Sin @ February 19, 2006, 1:15 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
Chad, as I said in the original reply, it was just "my opinion".....but an educated one. If you checked with major tire manufacturers or retailers, they'd recommend against an OD difference between front and rear that big. You might not notice the performance change(s) but in extreme circumstances, they'd be there. The computer can handle calibration changes and adjust (almost completely) for brake proportioning changes but the bottom line is that our suspensions weren't developed and tuned for a mixed "height" change.
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I wasn't miffed about your comments I just wanted to know if it was imperative for me to get new rear tires to fix the situation. Personally, I like the look but if it's going to damage the car or cause harm to me or my passengers I would get it fixed.

SVTJackl

Wow.....Thanks guys for all the help. Please keep it coming. I ned all the advice I can get. I have been a car guy all my life and know quite a bit but I learn something new every day here.

And yes, I wouldn't change the OD of the wheel/tire combo for just the reason mentioned but I am still considering a staggered setup to all 4 equal sizes. I just don't know what the difference would be in tire life between this

George

Original Sin

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(SVTJackl @ February 19, 2006, 5:01 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
Wow.....Thanks guys for all the help. Please keep it coming. I ned all the advice I can get. I have been a car guy all my life and know quite a bit but I learn something new every day here.

And yes, I wouldn't change the OD of the wheel/tire combo for just the reason mentioned but I am still considering a staggered setup to all 4 equal sizes. I just don't know what the difference would be in tire life between this

George
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The difference in tire life is 'gonna be measured with your right foot George. Then again, if you're aggressive on the twisties, then you're front's might go a bit earlier (depends if the car is lowered, camber angles on or off, etc - generally lowered with proper camber range will get you less understeer which equals less plowing around the corners, therefore less "push" or wear on the fronts). Hey, do the exciting thing, go staggared.....every one of them I've seen on the site look great and frankly, our low-end torque isn't that far off from the GT500's (well OK, maybe a little bit) that Ford said "needed" 285's on the rear" to hook up properly.

Hey Chad - the performance issues I mentioned aren't particularly critical unless you're confronted by "extreme" demands every day. But....for your own peace of mind, get in touch with someone on the technical side of Discount Tires or The Tire Rack that really "knows" about fitments and see what they say. In the meantime, don't worry....I'm just really finicky about tires/handling issues, didn't intend to imply you were gonna go off the road anytime soon. Let us know what you decide, Mark

SVTJackl

Thanks Mark,

I think your right....staggered is the way to go. Of course I am a big handling guy too but staggered just looks sooooo good!!! Hehehe!

So it looks like 19x8 and 19x9's with 255/40/19 and 285/35/19 contisport contact 2's

What do you guys think?

Original Sin

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(SVTJackl @ February 20, 2006, 4:38 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
Thanks Mark,

I think your right....staggered is the way to go. Of course I am a big handling guy too but staggered just looks sooooo good!!! Hehehe!

So it looks like 19x8 and 19x9's with 255/40/19 and 285/35/19 contisport contact 2's

What do you guys think?
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Sounds perfect actually. Now the big question - what are ya 'gonna mount them on?????????

SVTJackl

I'm looking at SSR Professor SP1's in 19" and bright satin finish if they are available in the 06 Bolt pattern. If not, I want something very similar.