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Old Dec 10, 2009 | 03:18 PM
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We haven't had a chance to get the page done just yet - been working on finishing the Cobra Jet louvers for Ford, had one of our CNC's go down with a silly proximity switch issue, etc... the usual stuff! That and the software integration of the static site / storefront is still stuck in development hell...

In the meantime, price on them is 119.99, we have them in stock.
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Old Dec 10, 2009 | 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by SilverHorseRacing
We haven't had a chance to get the page done just yet - been working on finishing the Cobra Jet louvers for Ford, had one of our CNC's go down with a silly proximity switch issue, etc... the usual stuff! That and the software integration of the static site / storefront is still stuck in development hell...

In the meantime, price on them is 119.99, we have them in stock.
Can I get a commision on the sale seeing as I started this thread??
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Old Dec 10, 2009 | 05:06 PM
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I don't know... seeing as the honeycomb panel doesn't look like your first choice for blacking out the back...
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Old Dec 10, 2009 | 05:20 PM
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Are they held on with 3M double sided tape?
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Old Dec 10, 2009 | 05:27 PM
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Yes, actually the entire piece is lined with 3M tape solid. So it is a peel-n-stick application.
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 06:20 AM
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Cool "A Nice Looking Piece"

Originally Posted by SilverHorseRacing
Yes, actually the entire piece is lined with 3M tape solid. So it is a peel-n-stick application.
Marcello: We already have your great GT/CS lower grill unit and love it! A Quality piece of work. Is this new center piece a real true carbon fiber or a clone? Do you make this in house also? Or will be just selling it? Know if you are making this one, then it has to be one of the best quality pieces available again!!

Wondering just what one of those nice pieces could look like on the back end our white 2007 GT/CS coupe? Any new pictures that you can share with us yet? Predicting this unit will probably really sell like gang busters once posted!! CalStang
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by CalStang'07
Marcello: We already have your great GT/CS lower grill unit and love it! A Quality piece of work. Is this new center piece a real true carbon fiber or a clone? Do you make this in house also? Or will be just selling it? Know if you are making this one, then it has to be one of the best quality pieces available again!!

Wondering just what one of those nice pieces could look like on the back end our white 2007 GT/CS coupe? Any new pictures that you can share with us yet? Predicting this unit will probably really sell like gang busters once posted!! CalStang
This piece is true carbon fiber, covered with a urethane clearcoat. It is made for us by the same company that makes our dash kits (they also supply BMW, Roush, and others). While I am a fan of the honeycomb panel for obvious reasons, this is a nice alternative that I think will be a good option for people that want to go a different route. It's also available in a satin silver finish (non carbon fiber) for people with dark cars that want to lighten up the back. The silver finish pieces are 99.99, free shipping on both of course.
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by SilverHorseRacing
I don't know... seeing as the honeycomb panel doesn't look like your first choice for blacking out the back...
That's okay, I have your louvers and love them!
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Old Dec 12, 2009 | 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by SilverHorseRacing
This piece is true carbon fiber, covered with a urethane clearcoat. It is made for us by the same company that makes our dash kits (they also supply BMW, Roush, and others). While I am a fan of the honeycomb panel for obvious reasons, this is a nice alternative that I think will be a good option for people that want to go a different route. It's also available in a satin silver finish (non carbon fiber) for people with dark cars that want to lighten up the back. The silver finish pieces are 99.99, free shipping on both of course.
Marcello: Thanks for the very quick response! We will have to really consider this carbon fiber possibility. "Live Long and Prosper"!! CalStang
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Old Dec 12, 2009 | 11:26 AM
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As promised

http://www.silverhorseracing.com/web...ategory_id=255

"Long Live and Prosper"? Do I sense a Vulcan presence in our midst?

BTW - Just put in a 20% discount on the site for everyone on these, good through Dec. 23rd - happy ordering!

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Old Dec 13, 2009 | 05:39 AM
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Originally Posted by SilverHorseRacing
As promised

http://www.silverhorseracing.com/web...ategory_id=255

"Long Live and Prosper"? Do I sense a Vulcan presence in our midst?

BTW - Just put in a 20% discount on the site for everyone on these, good through Dec. 23rd - happy ordering!
Marcello: No Sir. But this Vulcan logic could very well apply to SHR and to a quality individual such as yourself Sir! Thank you again for all that you do for us here and for the S-197 world! "Its All Very Good"!! Wow! 20% off! That's a very nice holiday price MC! Will have to discuss this one with the HM-20 assets mangaer for a sign off, during these tighter times if you know what I mean Bro? CalStang
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Old Dec 14, 2009 | 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by truckmec67
here are a few more pics, maybe a little better
here is a picture of my ( Black out panel )[ATTACH][/ATTACH]
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Old Dec 14, 2009 | 08:41 PM
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Real Carbon fiber looks great.
I agree.
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Old Dec 15, 2009 | 10:02 AM
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Just ordered mine. With all the nasty weather here it might not get installed till next spring though.
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Old Dec 18, 2009 | 11:23 AM
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blackout

does anyone make a blackout panel the covers the key hole and faux gas?
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Old Dec 18, 2009 | 03:15 PM
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CDC panel with a hurst equipped emblem on it



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Old Dec 20, 2009 | 05:33 PM
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Is the CDC panel easier to clean the the SHR Honeycomb panel? That is my onlt pet-peve about the SHR panel. After washing the car, and having to wipe in every section. It just takes too long to get it looking good.

I was thinking about replacing the SHR panel with a carbon fiber panel, but I am trying to get a retro look, and I am thinking now about the CDC rear panel.

I remember someone posted a pic awhile back where they added the Hurst emblem to the panel. They dremelled out a section for the emblem and it sat in just like the CDC GT emblem.

Anyone have a copy of that panel?

Sean
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Old Jan 16, 2010 | 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by SeanD
Is the CDC panel easier to clean the the SHR Honeycomb panel? That is my onlt pet-peve about the SHR panel. After washing the car, and having to wipe in every section. It just takes too long to get it looking good.

I was thinking about replacing the SHR panel with a carbon fiber panel, but I am trying to get a retro look, and I am thinking now about the CDC rear panel.

I remember someone posted a pic awhile back where they added the Hurst emblem to the panel. They dremelled out a section for the emblem and it sat in just like the CDC GT emblem.

Anyone have a copy of that panel?

Sean
Hmm, not sure if im just seeing things or not, but hey Sean, you wouldn't happen to be talking about the guy who posted above you would you?

anyways, i'm actually wondering how much of a hassle it is to keep the SHR honeycomb panel looking good? do u really have to wipe every section out after a wash? i wash my S197 constantly and could see that actually being a PITA.

i like the look tho and even thinking about the CF Panel. anyways, another alternative to the SHR honeycomb panel is the one from stackracing. not sure how nice it is, as i've only recently came across it. it's similar, except it's design is more like the CDC one. well anyways here's a link to it. anyone have any info on the quality or any info in general about it? btw it's $155, which is a few extra $$ more than the honeycomb. but i guess if the hassle of having to wipe every section of the honeycomb is true, then the few extra $$ could be well worth it.

http://www.stackracing.com/05-09-decklid-panel.html

and a few pix
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Old Jan 16, 2010 | 11:22 PM
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Cleaning isn't a big deal

Preface - JT / Sean this isn't directed at you, just a response in general about the company you posted about. This latest piece from them is the latest in copies being brought in from overseas after they identify top sellers in the market (we are not the only target of their work)...

First, to answer the cleaning question about our honeycomb panel:
Literally thousands of our customers have found that just a sponge and some hose-pressure water will clean our honeycomb panel just fine, and it dries with a synthetic chamois without issue (that's how I did it even on our show car). It's not as deep as it looks, that's a visual "trick" we accomplish by alternating finishes on the plastic - the original honeycomb panel of the 70's was actually a little deeper than our piece, but was uniform in finish, making it look a little more shallow. Sean, if you are unhappy with the cleaning of our product, I would ask that you look at the CDC piece (which we do offer), as it is quality made, and is obviously less work to wash, but does not match the front grill work or go towards the retro theme, which is what we were after in our original design.

On the Stack piece.... I really hate to comment on them...but I've had about enough of their blatant actions...so let's air some dirty laundry, shall we? While this might not be the best place to do so, and it might completely derail this thread (mods we can open a new thread about this if needed), I thought it was important to respond to their latest offering head-on:

<RANT MODE ON>

Some facts about Stack:

1) ALL their products are 100% made in China (evidence on every package plus directly quoted from their sales manager) - that's American jobs and dollars shipping over there with every purchase. Seeing as they (the Chinese govt) just tried to hack Google over the past couple days (http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/...-to-china.html ), I can see how giving them more money is such a good thing... Let's not even talk about the trade deficit, the barriers to US products going to China without being knocked-off, Intellectual property rights (movies, music, software, patents, trademarks), etc..

2) It is a direct knock off of our part, with the exception of the honeycomb section, which is how they worked around our US Patent (yes we already checked with our legal guys). The gating of the part, ejector pin locations, frame and center bevel etc. is all an exact copy - must make it easy if someone else does your R&D on how to make the material flow correctly and fit properly. Check out the original honeycomb thread from 2005 to see what it took to get that all worked out. We had months in R&D to get a good flowing part that fit properly and addressed everyone's requests in a part. Even the water drains and lower tape applications are in the same locations, which is something we worked out to help avoid trouble down the road for customers. For visual reference, look at the back side of their part in photos - 100% identical, which is where the work to make the part happen occurs.

3) Like everything else made over there (like the kid's jewelry with cadmium - AP story from earlier this week since they are checking for lead now - http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100113/...admium_jewelry) materials are whatever they can find. We use BASF UV stabilized resin & 3M branded foam application tape direct from 3M - what are they using? That 20.00 potentially saved up front will cost if the material is standard ABS and it chalks up in 6 months or the piece just falls off the car. We've got panels out there for 4 years+ now that still look as good as the day they were installed.

4) Go to the Stack website - their physical address (if you can find it - hint 616 Corp. Way Suite 2 #3282 Valley Cottage NY 10989) is the same as one used by a hair products company (Hana) which is sold by Misikko (owned by the same parent company that owns American Muscle) , and others. No phone # or direct contact info to be found. Further research will show that it is just a mail forwarding location owned by usamail1.com, not a real physical address. There is NO STACK RACING in NY. Everything ships from Malvern PA (who else is there, hmm???)

5) Whoever registered their domain name, strangely enough through a third party proxy also registered American Muscle (whois lookup). Why aren't they up-front about who they are and where they are producing everything? Could it be it doesn't fit their "muscle" name too well? Has anyone ever been to the Stack Racing R&D facility where dimensions are taken from competing products? No? Why not? Does it even exist as a separate entity from their #1 dealer?

6) By comparison, check our address on our contact page, it's a light manufacturing area in central FL near Kennedy Space Center (Google map it and you can do a virtual drive-by even), and customers have been to our location for open houses and visits to see how we make our products right here in the USA, on as much US-sourced equipment and materials as is possible in our industry. Check us out at SEMA, Mustang Week, PRI, and other shows where you can meet with us in person and talk to the people who actually design, make, and finish the products you are looking at.

7) Sorry, but products like this, while increasing choice ever so slightly over what is available, serve only to make small niche US manufacturers think twice before spending the time and money to develop the innovative products in the first place. Nobody wants to spend 80-100k in development just to watch their piece get copied for 1/4 the cost and imported by the container load - it's just not smart business to do so, and will only serve to hamper innovation and new product releases. Looking at their site, you'll see products from CDC, WebElectric, SHR, and others, all copies. They aren't exactly big on innovation, just big on "Cheap Muscle"...

<RANT OFF>

Again, this isn't directed at anyone in particular, so please don't take offense. I just wondered how long it was going to take before the latest copy made its way to the forums as it was released over the holidays... heck, even the pictures used on certain websites are the same to try and make it look like our part=their part. How interesting is that?

We know that being copied is the sincerest form of flattery, but when you have 10x the ad budget to mask the truth about your product's origins and company owners, it would be nice if the companies in question could be a little more original and actually add something to the Mustang aftermarket, rather than just trying to reinvent the wheel that is already there. There are so many original products yet to be developed, if someone had the funding and desire to do so.

Yes, we're upset about it, but at the same time, we're also moving forward with other products to stay one step ahead of things like this. I just want people to know what it is they are supporting with their purchase when they buy something like this, so that when it comes to making a purchasing decision, you have all the facts. Feel free to share these facts with other forums if you find this interesting. If you think it's just a crazed rant, then please ignore it

I sincerely welcome any owner or management of Stack Racing onto public forums to refute any of the facts we have presented here. If we are wrong about anything above, I will personally make a public retraction and apology for any comments that are innacurate. However, trust me when I say, I've done my fair share of homework on this before presenting these facts in public.

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Old Jan 16, 2010 | 11:22 PM
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I know...stupid me for not seeing that. I am going to be removing my SHR honeyomb and rear emblem soon, as I picked up a Saleen Heritage bumper and will be using the Saleen license plate fller that goes between the tails, so I do not need them. I'll give someone a good deal on the panel if interested!
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