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Ducktail install, BAD.....

Old May 20, 2006 | 04:28 PM
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Ducktail install, BAD.....

Well i got my roush bumper and ss ducktail installed by a body shop and upon seeing it, the ducktail is a bit crooked and is a tad higher on one side. I brought it up to the guy and he said the way the material is, its not going to be perfect.
Its off center though, that could of been helped and being higher on one side could of been helped also.

They put extra adhesive on it to hold it down, is there anything they can do if i bring it back monday? Can it be ripped off and realigned?

bumper looks great though
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Old May 20, 2006 | 04:35 PM
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Sure, there is plenty they can do. It's not that difficult for them to take it off and realign it. The question is, do they want to go to the trouble of doing it for you?

Do you have any pics? Good luck.
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Old May 20, 2006 | 07:15 PM
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I think you'll find with many bodyshops that they are less than enthusiastic about correcting their careless work.

Make them fix it--period.

This is precisely why it took me three months to find a good bodyshop. I know I'm VERY **** when it comes to my car.

I have the CDC Ducktail, and I had to take mine back as well for an adjustment. I was met with "some" resistance but forged on and simply would not take no for an answer. I also had a slight indentation in my Street Scene front bumper. I wanted it fixed... period. It was fixed to my satisfaction.

I imagine there is slight variance on these body pieces, but not THAT much and any variance or imperfection in the part can be corrected... no matter what BS they tell you.

Bottom line... you paid for them to put it on they need to do the job right or refund your money so you can get someone who WILL do it right.
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Old May 20, 2006 | 07:17 PM
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I think you'll find with many bodyshops that they are less than enthusiastic about correcting their careless work.

Make them fix it--period.

This is precisely why it took me three months to find a good bodyshop. I know I'm VERY **** when it comes to my car.

I have the CDC Ducktail, and I had to take mine back as well for an adjustment. I was met with "some" resistance but forged on and simply would not take no for an answer. I also had a slight indentation in my Street Scene front bumper. I wanted it fixed... period. It was fixed to my satisfaction.

I imagine there is slight variance on these body pieces, but not THAT much and any variance or imperfection in the part can be corrected... no matter what BS they tell you.

Bottom line... you paid for them to put it on they need to do the job right or refund your money so you can get someone who WILL do it right.
thanks a lot for this info cause i was wondering if maybe i'm being to picky. A few of my workmates, also noticed it right a way though.
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Old May 20, 2006 | 07:43 PM
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Your not be picky. You should get high quality work for your hard earned money.
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Old May 20, 2006 | 08:21 PM
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I agree totally with what GRAYPNY wrote and you're very welcome for the info.

And even if you are too picky... it's your car and you paid them money to make it the way you want it... who cares what they think, do what you know is right for you.
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Old May 20, 2006 | 09:48 PM
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This is exactly why I did mine myself. I've never done it before, but I knew that nobody would take the time and care that I would to make sure it was perfect.

Point is, don't take the "That's the way the material is, crap." I just hope they don't do more damage taking it off to reinstall it.
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Old May 20, 2006 | 09:59 PM
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Yeah - I say go for it man, cuz you'll always wish you tried to get it fixed if you don't go for it now.
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Old May 21, 2006 | 12:07 AM
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How about some bumper pics?
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Old May 21, 2006 | 05:46 AM
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Originally Posted by jason929rr
Well i got my roush bumper and ss ducktail installed by a body shop and upon seeing it, the ducktail is a bit crooked and is a tad higher on one side. I brought it up to the guy and he said the way the material is, its not going to be perfect.
Its off center though, that could of been helped and being higher on one side could of been helped also.

They put extra adhesive on it to hold it down, is there anything they can do if i bring it back monday? Can it be ripped off and realigned?

bumper looks great though
Just gently remind them that "crooked" is not an "in" thing and that wasn't what you were going for when you spent your money to have the pieces installed. Tell them you put pics up on this forum and everybody here, (all 9 billion of us) agree, it looks like poo!



But first and foremost
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Old May 21, 2006 | 02:14 PM
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Ok I don't have a digital camera yet guys, I'm getting one in a week for my b-day. Maybe i'll take a picture with a disposable and post it this week.
One more quick question, if they pull it off, is it possible it will take off paint at the same time?
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Old May 21, 2006 | 04:30 PM
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No, it won't remove the paint.
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Old May 22, 2006 | 04:34 PM
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Well i brought it back to the body shop and he told me straight up that there is noo way to remove that thing since they double reinforced it. He did adjust the whole drunk over so the gap isn't so big now. I believe he heated the ducktail up more and maybe got a 1mm out of it to move.

Its not perfect but it is a lot better so i guess i'm happy
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Old May 22, 2006 | 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by jason929rr
Well i brought it back to the body shop and he told me straight up that there is noo way to remove that thing since they double reinforced it. He did adjust the whole drunk over so the gap isn't so big now. I believe he heated the ducktail up more and maybe got a 1mm out of it to move.

Its not perfect but it is a lot better so i guess i'm happy
b.s. tell him to fix it or you want your money back so you can pay someone to do it correctly........
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Old May 22, 2006 | 08:53 PM
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Dude... I don't know how better to put this.

He is lying to you. Period. Do you really think that a bodyman can't remove a body panel once it's installed?

When they bring a crashed car in to be fixed do you think he tells the prospective customer, "Oh gee I would love to fix that... but that's an awfully big dent and I just can't do it."

There are FAR harder jobs to perform as a bodyman than removing a double-sided taped spoiler.

Even if they glued it on (which I'm pretty darned sure they didn't) it can still be removed. Now they might remove some paint with it... and it might actually deform the spoiler... but that's on their dime not yours.

If they need to re-paint your car, or re-order a new spoiler because they can't remove it without damaging it then that's what they HAVE to do.

But I guarantee you they didn't glue it.

And he adjusted the whole trunk!! Dude... make them fix it. Not half-assed fix it... FIX it.

And if not get your money back.

Say these words, "Look... you need to remove the spoiler and put it on correctly or I want my money back."

Because his lame excuses are just that... BS excuses.

"Be bold and mighty forces will come to your aid."
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Old May 22, 2006 | 09:03 PM
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Your shop sucks. You're being taken advantage of.

Sorry if the truth hurts.

3m tape can be removed, bolts can be taken out. They're a freakin body shop - they can do it, they just don't want to redo their work even though they screwed up and should redo it.

Ask them HOW they "double reinforced" it. Sounds like you're being fed a load of crap. Do they mean they used 3m tape and bolts?

But before I go any further - how 'bout some freakin' pics already!
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Old May 22, 2006 | 09:26 PM
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well... here's my deal. 3D Carbon ducktail. Took it to a local guy I know and comes highly rated from a local mustang shop. Did this on the side, privately. He told me ahead a time, even before he saw the part, that it would be difficult to be perfect. He also explained to me how the piece would expand and contract in different temps (IT DID). He also said once it's on, it's a PITA to get off. Thats why... WE... took extra long time lining it up and looking at how it would expand contract.

Basically, it looks great, not perfect but even after a month it still expands and contracts a little bit. He also pointed out the finish of the part before he painted it and where it will be slightly blemished..., unless I wanted to pay more for the extra time to make it perfect. I didn't.

Unless it's a show car, and you can only tell if you're right up and trying to find a problem, I wouldn't worry about it.
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Old May 22, 2006 | 10:29 PM
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I would agree with this to a point.

Yes there are variances on body parts. And depending on the part, and company, some vary more than others.

From what Jason described it seems as though they just did a poor job.

Of course... like O.C.D said it's hard to tell without pics.

So yeah Jason... maybe post the pics so we can see.

I can say this though, have the CDC ducktail and it doesn't have any blemishes and doesn't expand / contract from what I can tell. It's a fiberglass piece though so maybe that's why.

And it's fit / finish is pretty darn perfect. So maybe it's a better product.
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Old May 23, 2006 | 04:20 AM
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I agree with what others have said. Bodyshops can do a lot with paint and parts.....it is their job. Think of it this way. They did is half a**ed, so would they expect 1/2 payment? Make them fix it.
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Old May 23, 2006 | 07:37 AM
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Just so you all know, it is not an easy process to get all 3 pieces lined up. Mine was off a little bit and since a 6" section did not hold properly I dropped the car off this morning. They are removing the spoiler and reinstalling it, so, if someone tells you it can't be removed they are full of it because it can be done. Also, if they want to make sure it really is stuck on there, have them put the car in the paint booth after and bake it on.
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