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BF Goodrich g-Force T/A KDW NT In Wet Weather?

Old Aug 17, 2006 | 01:31 AM
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BF Goodrich g-Force T/A KDW NT In Wet Weather?

Spoke to a guy at a respected Mustang performance tuning outfit here in town yesterday, and asked him about the BF Goodrich g-Force T/A KDW NT tires. I know a lot of you guys here have those tires on your rides, and I'm wondering how you find the overall performance.

The guy yesterday told me that they have ZERO wet weather traction, and that when he was driving a new Stang with those tires on the car during heavy rain, the whole backend got so squirrely on him that he actually pulled over. He said that the tread pattern lacks any sort of a 'V' channel, and so the tires just don't provide sufficient traction on slippery pavement of any kind.

He also said that they wear FAST due to the sticky compound.

I know they're pricey, too.

Any thoughts or viewpoints on the above? Should these tires be avoided in wet climates?

Thanks in advance for any perspectives...
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Old Aug 17, 2006 | 06:37 AM
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Something to help you out.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....A+KDW+2#Survey
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Old Aug 17, 2006 | 03:17 PM
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While it hasn't rained much here lately I haven't too much of a problem when it has rained. I've had minor hydroplaning when the water was deeper and I was going too fast. I am actually impressed with the grip in the wet so far. I can't comment on the wear since I've only had them since March.
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Old Aug 17, 2006 | 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Treadhead
While it hasn't rained much here lately I haven't too much of a problem when it has rained. I've had minor hydroplaning when the water was deeper and I was going too fast. I am actually impressed with the grip in the wet so far. I can't comment on the wear since I've only had them since March.
How deep was the water and how fast were you going, just out of curiosity? I ask because a performance shop is trying to steer me away from these tires...even though I love 'em. It may be because we get A LOT of rain in Vancouver.
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Old Aug 17, 2006 | 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Sonic Thunder
That's good info...thanks.

Although I am starting to notice precisely the same sentences showing up in "comments" from different people. I'm now beginning to wonder if at least some of these TireRack reviews are bogus "plants." EXAMPLE: I also made it out of my steep driveway with about 2 inches of snow on it.

Yeah right.
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Old Aug 17, 2006 | 05:13 PM
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Talking Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3

Check these out: Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3

Here is SFLA it is veru important to have very good wet traction.
I have to take it easy on turns on rainy days as well.
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Old Aug 17, 2006 | 06:29 PM
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Had these on the Millie Miglias I first bought for my 05 way back..... tires did nothing for me and I wasn't impressed with them at all.......
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Old Aug 18, 2006 | 04:41 AM
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I'll never buy Goodyear again after having BF Goodriches. Period
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Old Aug 18, 2006 | 05:30 AM
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I could be wrong, but I don't think that's the tire that comes from the factory with the 18" rims. I believe it is this one:

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....orce+T%2FA+KDW

Not sure which one BC_Shelby is referring to,
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Old Aug 18, 2006 | 05:36 AM
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No Rash, when he is talking about the KDW (NT), the NT stands for New Tread. KDW went with a new tread design last year and that's what they were called until recently, they changed to the KDW 2.
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Old Aug 18, 2006 | 06:52 AM
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No Rash, when he is talking about the KDW (NT), the NT stands for New Tread. KDW went with a new tread design last year and that's what they were called until recently, they changed to the KDW 2.
Ahhh.....my bad. Thanks for clearing that up. I was wondering why the NT wasn't listed on either tire.

So which one comes with the 18" tires now?
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Old Aug 18, 2006 | 05:29 PM
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I believe the KDW 2's do??
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Old Aug 18, 2006 | 07:41 PM
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I have these in the back... 255/45/18 and they are actually prety nice in the rain.. griped better then my Avon tires... although once I did have major hydroplaning!!!.. but oh well.. they do look bad a$$!!!
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Old Aug 18, 2006 | 08:55 PM
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I'm sold!!
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Old Aug 19, 2006 | 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by BC_Shelby
How deep was the water and how fast were you going, just out of curiosity? I ask because a performance shop is trying to steer me away from these tires...even though I love 'em. It may be because we get A LOT of rain in Vancouver.

I would have to guess it was maybe a 1/4"-1/2" deep running across the freeway from a heavy downpour. I hit it going about 70mph. There were about 2 or 3 of these "rivers" across the freeway within a 1/4 mile and each was about 10-15ft from front to back. The hydroplaning was only on the first section as slowed to about 60mph for the others. To be clear though, the car didn't move around or anything and tracked straight.
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Old Aug 19, 2006 | 01:24 AM
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Originally Posted by BC_Shelby
Spoke to a guy at a respected Mustang performance tuning outfit here in town yesterday, and asked him about the BF Goodrich g-Force T/A KDW NT tires. I know a lot of you guys here have those tires on your rides, and I'm wondering how you find the overall performance.

The guy yesterday told me that they have ZERO wet weather traction, and that when he was driving a new Stang with those tires on the car during heavy rain, the whole backend got so squirrely on him that he actually pulled over. He said that the tread pattern lacks any sort of a 'V' channel, and so the tires just don't provide sufficient traction on slippery pavement of any kind.

He also said that they wear FAST due to the sticky compound.

I know they're pricey, too.

Any thoughts or viewpoints on the above? Should these tires be avoided in wet climates?

Thanks in advance for any perspectives...
Here`s what I`m considering and were neighbours http://www.discounttiredirect.com/di...r=50&tc=MTAHZH
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Old Aug 19, 2006 | 02:06 AM
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I ran g-Force KDWS's a while back, they were excellent.
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Old Aug 20, 2006 | 10:25 AM
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The KDWS is what comes stock on the 18" wheels from the factory. It's what I have now, I've had no issues in wet weather driving, but I take it easy anyway as a precaution.

I will get the KDW NT's eventually, once the KDWS's are worn down . BTW, in case it wasn't obvious - the "W" stands for "Wet" the "S" stands for "Snow". I can easily go to with the KDW-NT's year round - it never snows here!
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Old Aug 21, 2006 | 08:04 AM
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I have had no problems with mine in the rain. They actually provide very good traction in the wet. Anyone that has ever been to Columbus, OH knows we get our share of rain to test them out it too .

I can't really comment on how quickly they wear either. I have put about 3,000 miles (and three trips to the drag strip) on them with no noticable wear.

I will say they leave something to be desired on the drag strip but they aren't really made for hooking up at the track.
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Old Mar 2, 2008 | 08:47 AM
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any updates on the mileage wear on these?
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