Anyone have comments on this subject? I am wondering if I need these as well. I went to have an alignment and the car pulls right ... switch the front wheels around and it goes away. May have a bad tire.

Regardless, I have a shake on the highway ... figured these will help with that. Anyone not have any noticeable improvement with the hub centric ring?

 

Just in case you haven't heard about it before, another contibuting factor could be the small locking washer thing that is on one of the studs of each rotor. I removed mine, as to eliminate any possibility of causing a vibration. Just a thought, if all else fails. Pic is attached showing where the washer is located.

 

who balanced your tires?

 

Tyler at Extreme Customs in WI. I have left a message with him to call me on TU about this.

The guy at the alignment shop told me he suspected a bad tire or wheel because of the pull to one side. He said the alignment was dead on. I explained about the hub centric rings and he didn't think that would be the cause. Although I'm hoping they would help take the shake out of the steering wheel.

 

the rings didn't help my problem. I wonder if they spin the tire on the rim and then rebalance if that would help at all.

 

My only option if the rings don't help will be to do a complete re balance. I can't help but wonder in todays world of technology, why the wheels would balance out yet not feel right on the car in motion.

We occasionally have this problem at work on trucks and it always comes down to a faulty tire ... whether it be a separation or some other problem. there are chunks of dried on crap adhered to the wheel and they drive much straighter than this ... so, like I say, I can't help but wonder if the tire is the problem. I may swap front to rear today to see if that fixes the problem too ... then it would be definitive.

 

mustangs are not hubcentric and do not require hubcentric rings. all mustang wheels are lugcentric. meaning the lugs hold and center the wheel on the hub.

for those that have bought aftermarket wheels, be sure to remove the tab as noted above that is on one of the wheel studs from the factory. use a pair of needle nose pliars to pull off the metal tab. this is put on at the factory to hold the brake disc in place while on the assembly line. the factory wheels have the clearance around the stud for it not to interfere, but most aftermarket wheels do not.

you can buy and use the hubcentric rings but they are unnecessary. if you are having vibration issues be sure to note the following.

1: does it occur only at a certain or narrow mph. if so, likely a wheel(s) are out of balance

2: jack up the wheel in question and spin it by hand. look for run-out. if the wheel wobbles, its possible you did not remove the factory tab or the wheel itself is bent or out of round.

 

I have your very same tire & wheel setup on my 06 and I do not have centering rings and I do not have any problems with mine at all. You most likely have a bad tire...

 

I talked with Tyler at Extreme Customs today. He guy is truly trying all he can to help. He said the hub centric rings are not very effective because they are so small in diameter and not easy to get on straight.
We are trying a new set of lug nuts that will center the wheel to the hub. Apparently the ones from American Racing are not as good, but they are not usually a problem. I will know more when I try the new lug nuts later this week.

As for the vibration - it's at all speeds. I can literally see the steering wheel shake back and forth. The faster I go, the faster it moves. It's at its worse around 60 mph. What I can't understand is why the car pulls (ever so slightly) to the right .... even after an alignment.

If none of this helps, I will have the wheels rebalanced here locally.
Either way, Tyler has been great at helping with this.

 

any updates?

 

I read an article on a balancing problem with larger wheels in Mechanic's Illustrated a few years back.The article stated a wheel balancing issue reguarding larger tires on a chrome 18" wheel that came stock on an import.The car kept having balancing issues.Problem was the tires were so sticky(ZR rated) that when stopping the tires would rotate on the wheel on a hard stop.Make a chalk mark on your tire and wheel and see if they don't line up after a few hard stops.This might be your problem.
Its doesn't have to be a chrome wheel for this to happen with the super fine sticky tires they are making these days.I hope this helps.

 

I installed the new lug nuts and it made no difference. The lugs are lug centric, meaning they are fitted to fit inside the lug opening so they tighten what looks to be all the way to the hub or close.
I plan to take it into Discount Tire which is close by my house and do a full rebalance on Saturday. I've never once had this problem before with new tires and wheels. Always 100% dead on ... It does take the pleasure out of driving it.

 

did you ever swap the fronts to the rear?

 

Honestly, the rings made a HUGE difference for me. Not 100% perfect like the OEM all season tires- I very occassionally get some minor vibrations but before there were constant vibrations from 40 mph up to 65.

I don't get how you can say they are useless. If the wheel has a bigger opening than the hub, it has to cause issues. I don't care if the lugs are holding the wheel on, there is still a lot of pressure on that 2 or 3 mm gap.

Does anyone out there make a metal ring? I'm worried about the durability of the plastic Tire Rack pieces.

 

They made a hugh difference for me as well. They do make them in metal, you can google metal hubcentric rings and find them.

 

Mustangs are designed to be lugcentric. Unless you are using a wheel that does not support lugcentric lugs, hubcentric rings make no impact.

 

The factory wheels are hubcentric, not lugcentric. I'm not sure what you mean by "designed to be lugcentric" when the factory wheels are centered by the hub, not the lugs.

 

 

Here is one site with the metal ones:

http://www.1010tires.com/hubrings.asp

And here is some info on the subject, don't know if I agree 100% with all of it but it's an interesting read on the subject:

http://www.prestigewheel.com/Catalog/HubRings66_67.pdf

 

Ordered a set of rings from here off eBay. I'm hoping it helps.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=170259299544

BTW, here is what my old vs new lug nuts look like ... as you can see, the newer lug extends well down into the lug opening of the wheel vs the old being a conical seat.