Do We Need Replay in MLB?
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That was probably the most horrible call I have seen ever on the baseball field. I would hate to see replay in baseball, but this horrendous error really makes a strong case for it.
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I think the call on Crede in the 7th getting tagged out sliding back to the bag was a much more visible of an error than the amount of daylight between the ball and the ground. And the Umps had been calling the game the same way for the entire game (look at reply of previous batters getting called 3rd strikes) . . .catcher should always tag the batter . . just in case.
But I would not be opposed to replay in the playoffs. But I was much more upset with the call on Crede.
But I would not be opposed to replay in the playoffs. But I was much more upset with the call on Crede.
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I think that guy just blew the call, it happens. Yes it's a tough break for the Los Angeles, Anahiem, San fransisco and Oakland Angels but it happens like that sometimes. At least the NFL send them letters apologizing lol
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Originally posted by Evil_Capri@October 13, 2005, 3:58 AM
. . .catcher should always tag the batter . . just in case.
. . .catcher should always tag the batter . . just in case.
Now, about instant replay. I'd much rather see the right calls made, so I'm in favor of it. There will always be human error, why not eliminate it?
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The catcher caught the ball... the only time catchers throw to first or tag the man is when the ump is screaming in their ear, "no catch! no catch!" He had thrown the ball towards the mound because he caught the ball and the ump wasn't screaming in his ear.
Oh, and when an ump signals a man out, he's supposed to be out, last time i watched a baseball game it was that way. call me crazy
Oh, and when an ump signals a man out, he's supposed to be out, last time i watched a baseball game it was that way. call me crazy
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I have no idea. Maybe it was because he was in the wrong end of the same call last year. Or maybe because the Umpire became mute... but he did make the signal for out.
Oh well, this can go back and forth all day long... series is tied 1-1, and it's looking to be one heck of a series. Can't wait for tommorow.
Oh well, this can go back and forth all day long... series is tied 1-1, and it's looking to be one heck of a series. Can't wait for tommorow.
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I can't wait for tomorrow, either, and I always like a good discussion.
Unfortunately, or fortuntely human error is apart of the game, just look at the strike zone between each ump behind the plate. I was watching the pre-game show for the Cards-Astros and they should a good close-up, and it did look like the ball was cupped in the glove, but in one frame, to me, it looked like the ball may have caught the ground just barely.
Unfortunately, or fortuntely human error is apart of the game, just look at the strike zone between each ump behind the plate. I was watching the pre-game show for the Cards-Astros and they should a good close-up, and it did look like the ball was cupped in the glove, but in one frame, to me, it looked like the ball may have caught the ground just barely.
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Originally posted by thezeppelin8@October 13, 2005, 3:07 PM
The catcher caught the ball... the only time catchers throw to first or tag the man is when the ump is screaming in their ear, "no catch! no catch!" He had thrown the ball towards the mound because he caught the ball and the ump wasn't screaming in his ear.
Oh, and when an ump signals a man out, he's supposed to be out, last time i watched a baseball game it was that way. call me crazy
The catcher caught the ball... the only time catchers throw to first or tag the man is when the ump is screaming in their ear, "no catch! no catch!" He had thrown the ball towards the mound because he caught the ball and the ump wasn't screaming in his ear.
Oh, and when an ump signals a man out, he's supposed to be out, last time i watched a baseball game it was that way. call me crazy
Look, my point is that if there is ever any question is always better to be safe than sorry. Why not just tag him out? Why take a chance? It is drilled in catchers heads from day one to tag the runner or throw to first on a play like that. It doesn't hurt. It doesn't matter if the Ump was wrong or right the whole thing could have been avoided if he would have tagged the runner.
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I'm saying that it was such a cut and dry play for the catcher that their wasn't a question in his mind that he caught that ball. He threw the ball towards the mound before he can even think that others had a question about the play. Of course he hasn't had a lot of experience so he doesn't think as fast.
And the freagin' ump signaled A.J. out!
I'm saying that it was such a cut and dry play for the catcher that their wasn't a question in his mind that he caught that ball. He threw the ball towards the mound before he can even think that others had a question about the play. Of course he hasn't had a lot of experience so he doesn't think as fast.
And the freagin' ump signaled A.J. out!
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That had to be the two worst umpired series I have ever seen in the same postseason. Not only that, all the calls went against the two teams that lost the series. The "no catch" call and catcher interference call that went against the Angels. The Grudzelanek foul ball off his foot that was called in play, the ball/strike issue in Game 4, and the non tag on the play at second in Game 6 that all went against the Cardinals. Sounds all rather fishy to me.
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Originally posted by thezeppelin8@October 12, 2005, 10:46 PM
That was probably the most horrible call I have seen ever on the baseball field. I would hate to see replay in baseball, but this horrendous error really makes a strong case for it.
That was probably the most horrible call I have seen ever on the baseball field. I would hate to see replay in baseball, but this horrendous error really makes a strong case for it.
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Originally posted by holderca1@October 20, 2005, 7:40 AM
Actually the call during the 85 World Series between the Cards and Royals was much worse.
Actually the call during the 85 World Series between the Cards and Royals was much worse.
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Originally posted by thezeppelin8@October 20, 2005, 5:34 PM
I was only two then, so that's probably why I didn't see it. :P
I was only two then, so that's probably why I didn't see it. :P
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Den....22The_Call.22