Well, if Ford does make the SVT Cobra and Shelby Mustang one in the same, I guess there goes my chances of getting one. The problem is that the Shelby name will make every old nostalgic baby-boomer want one for the name alone. Dealers will mark them up. I won't be able to afford one.

Let those of us who want the car for car get one first. Then those who want the car for the name can bring their collector car checkbooks later.

I personnally like Ford's own go-fast mustangs better. Of the 60's cars, I find the Boss and Mach 1 cars much more desireable than the Shelby's. In the 90's and 00's I prefer the SVT's over the Saleen, Steeda or Roush.

 

Ford doesn't allow price gouging or "mark up".....dealers can get in serious trouble if Ford finds they're in fact gouging the price.

 

??????

They may not allow it, but, they don't do anything about it. Have you shopped for a Ford GT lately or a Cobra in early 2003 or the Tbirds when they first were released or even a current Mustang GT. Honestly, I would love to see Ford crack down on it.

Come to think of it, I emailed Ford about my local dealer trying to gouge me on an '03 Cobra. I never heard back from them and the dealer is currently marking up the Mustang GTs.

 

There only two ways Ford can go on this. They either don't allow it and won't tolerate it or they turn a blind eye, which is the same as encouraging it.

Sounds like major league sports, doesn't it?

 

Ford can build a hundred variants of the Shelby Mustang as far as I'm concerned, and I promise to admire each one of them.

If they'll just gimme my SVT Cobra!

 

This is a joke right? Did you (and matic) seriously just suggest Ford relegate the legendary Shelby name to a letter tacked onto the end of "SVT"? :scratch:

I appreciate SVT and what they've done on recent Fords, and I can even understand them having a loyal fanbase. But come on, Shelby and SVT aren't even on the same level. SVT is maybe on the same level as BMW M and AMG, that's even arguable. The correct answer here (IMO) is to make a new division under FoMoCo called Shelby-American. Do Shelby Mustangs, a new Cobra, and the GR-1 (Call it the Daytona Coupe please). And, while I can appreciate people having grown attached to SVT Cobra's being in the line-up, if the Shelby name starts appearing on new Ford's and there's a separate SVT Mustang they need to find a new name for it. Because in all seriousness, no one has more right to that name than Shelby, that's not even debatable. That being said, it would be cool to pop the hood on every Shelby and have the valve covers read: "Powered by Ford SVT".

I'm not trying to rag on SVT, their cars are awesome (I even dig the SVT Contour), but let me ask all the pro-SVT guys a question:

What name is more significant on a Mustang, Shelby or SVT? That I even have to ask this on a Mustang devoted website is kind of depressing.

 

:shock:

Where've you been...?!!

Seen the price gouging dealers have been doing on the '05 GTs?

 

Obviously Shelby. I think the other gentlemen would agree, though I see your point about "SVT-S."

Personally, I love Shelbys, and I don't want to see them mixed with SVT--any more than I want to see SVT (which I also highly respect) mixed with Shelby. Keep 'em separate! Give us two if ya have to. We won't complain.

 

All I can say is not to worry, you'll get what you want and expect from SVT with out good old Shelby's name or price tag added to it.

 

This is a joke right? Did you (and matic) seriously just suggest Ford relegate the legendary Shelby name to a letter tacked onto the end of "SVT"? :scratch:

I appreciate SVT and what they've done on recent Fords, and I can even understand them having a loyal fanbase. But come on, Shelby and SVT aren't even on the same level. SVT is maybe on the same level as BMW M and AMG, that's even arguable. The correct answer here (IMO) is to make a new division under FoMoCo called Shelby-American. Do Shelby Mustangs, a new Cobra, and the GR-1 (Call it the Daytona Coupe please). And, while I can appreciate people having grown attached to SVT Cobra's being in the line-up, if the Shelby name starts appearing on new Ford's and there's a separate SVT Mustang they need to find a new name for it. Because in all seriousness, no one has more right to that name than Shelby, that's not even debatable. That being said, it would be cool to pop the hood on every Shelby and have the valve covers read: "Powered by Ford SVT".

I'm not trying to rag on SVT, their cars are awesome (I even dig the SVT Contour), but let me ask all the pro-SVT guys a question:

What name is more significant on a Mustang, Shelby or SVT? That I even have to ask this on a Mustang devoted website is kind of depressing.
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Shelby-><- You

Let's see, how long was Shelby affliated with Ford? Did Shelby stay with Ford? How about those banner Shelby's that were produced under the Dodge name plate? His killer K cars are the stuff of legend, the Omnis, Chargers...
And don't forget those awesome Dakotas and Durangos...

And how 'bout them awesome chili fixins?

Yeah, screw SVT! That Carroll Shelby, he's a damned near a God amongst the Mustang flock... :worship:

 

brad has hit this forum name like hitting a nail on the head


that is all

 

Hey BULLITT, looks like we'll have to liven this joint up, no?

 

Shelby-><- You

Let's see, how long was Shelby affliated with Ford? Did Shelby stay with Ford? How about those banner Shelby's that were produced under the Dodge name plate? His killer K cars are the stuff of legend, the Omnis, Chargers...
And don't forget those awesome Dakotas and Durangos...

And how 'bout them awesome chili fixins?

Yeah, screw SVT! That Carroll Shelby, he's a damned near a God amongst the Mustang flock... :worship:

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I want a Shelby if it is as awesome as I think it will be. I don't want it to honor the man. I want it to honor the CAR. Regardless of anyones feelings about Carroll, they cannot deny the mark the cars left on Mustang history. The Mach 1 has been honored, the BOSS will get its day. Its the Shelby cars turn. Why is this such a problem for some of you guys. Get over the Dodges, chilis and lawsuits. It is the CAR that matters.

 

Hello, McFly, is there anyone at home?

It's the car that matters? Why, then, have the Shelby name on it at all? Just make it look like a GT 350 or GT 500 and add those badges to it and leave the Shelby name off of it.

If Ford uses the Shelby name, they will be banking on the nostalgia of it in hopes that some dreamy eyed slob with Shelby stars in his eyes will drop an extra $10k on a Mustang just so he can have wet dreams about Shelby and himself sharing the spotlight after winning the big race.

Of course in order to do that, you're going to have to put down your pee-pee and drive with both hands on the wheel.

 

Good point.

 

Amen. After all, it's all about advancing the Ford Mustang. Gentlemen (and Ladies), Ford is having to increase Mustang production to keep up with demand. This from a car that just over 10 years ago was destined for the chopping block. We are all winners as long as Ford keeps making it, in any trim level.

I think John Coletti said it best with the introduction of the '03 Cobra... "After 38 years the Ponycar war is over. Mustang wins."

Long live Coletti, My Hero.

 

0:-)

I think I am already on probation. I am a step away from going "directly to jail".

Yeah! And Shelby socks!

 

Don't misconstrue my last comment. I support the 'Shelby' name on the Mustang. Call it anything you want, just build an awesome Mustang. For goodness sake, bring back the Boss too!

 

Yeah, cause I totally said "Screw SVT", or anything that could be interpreted as such... hooray for reading comprehension!

And yeah, it's totally Carroll Shelby's fault he got ran off by that former-GM tool Bunkie Knudsen. Shame on Shelby for making cars that were quick in the 80's and probably helped save one of the Big 3.

Let's see 65, 66, 67, 68, 69, and 70 (admittedly arguable since they were really just 69 holdovers with hood stripes, but I count them because, you know, they exist). So six years of some of the most legendary Mustangs ever made. Add to that the King Cobra, the Cobra, Daytona Coupe and Shelby-American being part of the original GT-40 development. Yeah I can see how SVT is more historically significant. (operating under 'modus ignorami' I see...)

As opposed to what. a little over a decade of off-and-on in-house tuning for Mustangs (of which, not counting R-models, exactly two were truly impressive. The first and last interestingly enough.), the SVT Contour (Taurus SHO part-deux), SVT Focus (great car, needed more horsepower), and the Lightning. Of course, you jumped to conclusions and assumed I would have SVT killed (actually reading my post would point to another conclusion). You know, the whole 'Powered by Ford SVT' thing might be a hint. But you did stumble across my evil plan, SVT badging wouldn't appear on anything but trucks if I had my way. Why waste great names like Shelby and Cosworth for just another innocuous three-letter abbreviation?

But that's another discussion entirely.

I like how you try to act like Shelby isn't a historically significant brand for Ford(who cares about the man anyway?). Yeah, doing Dodges and selling chili really wipes out the legacy of Shelby American. And it should be pointed out, those Omni's and Charger's you deride were pretty fast for their day. And it was an automotive dark age domestically.

Just out of curiousity, were you planning on doing anything than trying to belittle my point-of-view, say actually pointing out the flaw in my reasoning? Rather than just spouting hyperbole and emoticons, I mean.

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Just noticed this bit of brilliance. You know what, don't bother responding to the above. This pretty much proves you'd be incapable of an intelligent response anyway. Because, you know, you have to be delusional to admire the idea of a Shelby Mustang. That view isn't at all defensable as a fan of classic Mustangs and the history of the model.

 

And, just for clarity. I'd like the car whether it was a SVT Cobra or a Shelby GT500 if it's the same car underneath (and neither was ugly/overwrought). My only problem is with the wholly indefensible attitude that SVT is somehow more worthy to be on a Mustang than Shelby...