Shelby Cobra GT500
A svt guy a the dealership yesterday told the GT500 will pretty close to being same car as the GTr. The GT350 will pretty much have the same engine as the 03 cobra (blower on the 4.6). Price should be around $35,000 for fastback, vert around $40,000. GT500 will have th 5.0 "cammer" engine, not the 5.4. Price will be around the $50,000 mark. Shelby bought into svt and is working with them. Again, these are rumors. He seemed to know what he was talking about though. Belongs to clubs all around, and talks to many people within FORD. He's now a sales rep, but was a svt mechanic for 5 years. Will see.
If this is the case, I would prefer the GT350 model. I don't want a racecar like the GTr, I want a fast stock Mustang. Therefore, GT350 must be for me. Anyway, just another 3 weeks and we'll find out.
GT500 will be like this car, minus the tail.
If this is the case, I would prefer the GT350 model. I don't want a racecar like the GTr, I want a fast stock Mustang. Therefore, GT350 must be for me. Anyway, just another 3 weeks and we'll find out.

GT500 will be like this car, minus the tail.
Originally posted by Route 66@March 1, 2005, 10:29 AM
GT500 will have th 5.0 "cammer" engine, not the 5.4.
GT500 will have th 5.0 "cammer" engine, not the 5.4.
This would run somewhat counter to what someone else heard ol Shelby himself let slip on a radio program -- that the Shelby Cobra (GT500?) would have a SC 4V 5.4.
I could see a GT350 having either a production Cammer motor, hi-po 4V 4.6 or perhaps the SN95 Cobra's SC 4.6. I would guess the most likely to be the hi-po 4V 4.6 with 350-375hp, tight six speed and GTR'esque styling (toned down just a bit). It would be the hi(gher) strung road racer to the GT500's big motor uber Stang.
I could also see a non-Shelby Mach I with either a naturally aspirated 3-4V (Cobra Jet) 5.4 and/or a (Super Cobra Jet?) supercharged version. But it would have the old truck (live) axle out back and be geared/tuned specifically for the drag strip.
I could see a GT350 having either a production Cammer motor, hi-po 4V 4.6 or perhaps the SN95 Cobra's SC 4.6. I would guess the most likely to be the hi-po 4V 4.6 with 350-375hp, tight six speed and GTR'esque styling (toned down just a bit). It would be the hi(gher) strung road racer to the GT500's big motor uber Stang.
I could also see a non-Shelby Mach I with either a naturally aspirated 3-4V (Cobra Jet) 5.4 and/or a (Super Cobra Jet?) supercharged version. But it would have the old truck (live) axle out back and be geared/tuned specifically for the drag strip.
Originally posted by TomServo92+March 1, 2005, 11:46 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TomServo92 @ March 1, 2005, 11:46 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-Route 66@March 1, 2005, 10:29 AM
GT500 will have th 5.0 "cammer" engine, not the 5.4.
GT500 will have th 5.0 "cammer" engine, not the 5.4.

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I think it's due to emissions(?)
Originally posted by slavehand+March 1, 2005, 12:12 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(slavehand @ March 1, 2005, 12:12 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>
I'm a little skeptical on this. From what I understand, the 5.0 Cammer isn't approved for commercial vehicles. I seem to remember it has something to do with it not meeting long term durability specs or some such. Perhaps someone else can remember.
Originally posted by TomServo92@March 1, 2005, 11:46 AM
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GT500 will have th 5.0 "cammer" engine, not the 5.4.
GT500 will have th 5.0 "cammer" engine, not the 5.4.
I'm a little skeptical on this. From what I understand, the 5.0 Cammer isn't approved for commercial vehicles. I seem to remember it has something to do with it not meeting long term durability specs or some such. Perhaps someone else can remember.

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Yup it is
Originally posted by gt5000@March 1, 2005, 12:21 PM
Will auto be on any of those models?
Will auto be on any of those models?
Originally posted by Fordracing200+March 1, 2005, 11:23 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Fordracing200 @ March 1, 2005, 11:23 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'>
I'm a little skeptical on this. From what I understand, the 5.0 Cammer isn't approved for commercial vehicles. I seem to remember it has something to do with it not meeting long term durability specs or some such. Perhaps someone else can remember.
I think it's due to emissions(?)
Originally posted by slavehand@March 1, 2005, 12:12 PM
Originally posted by TomServo92@March 1, 2005, 11:46 AM
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GT500 will have th 5.0 "cammer" engine, not the 5.4.
GT500 will have th 5.0 "cammer" engine, not the 5.4.
I'm a little skeptical on this. From what I understand, the 5.0 Cammer isn't approved for commercial vehicles. I seem to remember it has something to do with it not meeting long term durability specs or some such. Perhaps someone else can remember.

I think it's due to emissions(?)
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To get 5.0L, they had to increase the bore from 90.2MM to 94MM, which I thought was a no-no with the mod-motors, at least for a production vehicle. It was something about cylinder walls being too thin.
Originally posted by ZRX4ME@March 1, 2005, 1:10 PM
from what i've been hearing.............the above is not correct.
from what i've been hearing.............the above is not correct.
Originally posted by TomServo92+March 1, 2005, 2:21 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TomServo92 @ March 1, 2005, 2:21 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-ZRX4ME@March 1, 2005, 1:10 PM
from what i've been hearing.............the above is not correct.
from what i've been hearing.............the above is not correct.
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Passing emissions?
What?
Originally posted by Route 66@March 1, 2005, 1:58 PM
I cant emagine the bore spacing being any tighter than the 2005 z06. That's about as close as you can get it.
I cant emagine the bore spacing being any tighter than the 2005 z06. That's about as close as you can get it.
Originally posted by gt5000@March 1, 2005, 1:54 PM
How does the paddle shift work, is it like a semi auto, were theres no clutch but you still shift up and down?
How does the paddle shift work, is it like a semi auto, were theres no clutch but you still shift up and down?
Originally posted by crazyhorse+March 1, 2005, 3:00 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(crazyhorse @ March 1, 2005, 3:00 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-gt5000@March 1, 2005, 1:54 PM
How does the paddle shift work, is it like a semi auto, were theres no clutch but you still shift up and down?
How does the paddle shift work, is it like a semi auto, were theres no clutch but you still shift up and down?
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Be aware that there are paddle shifter set ups that aren't like you describe. Mazda has paddle shifters in the automatic RX-8s but the tranny is a traditional automatic. There's no clutch at all. It's really no different than the automatics that have a "sport-shift" mode where you can manually shift it.



