sranger

I realize that there is more to the saleen Supercharged model than just the SC.

However, it is also true that you could add everything to a GT that a saleen has and get the same ( or very similar ) looks, and performance for well under the 40K cost of the base saleen model that does not even have the super charger.....

If you take a loaded GT at around 28-29K and add a 5K supercharger and 1K worth of wheels and tires and 1k worth of supension and 1K worth of new custom leather seats and maybe 2K for a few paint and body mods and you arrive at: $37,000 - $38,000.

This gives you and extra 2K to play with ( exhaust ? ) and you have a car that can easly outperfrom the base model Saleen with only 325hp. It will compare evenly with the 50K+ Supercharged model in both looks and performance , but you save over 10K.....

Again, it is just an opinion.....

holderca1

I agree completely. I more or less posted what you just said in another thread.

iceman241

But the shelby will still be the top dog when it comes out cause ford has already said it will be.

holderca1

Actually, that may not be true, the Saleen S281E may be faster, they say it will have 500 hp.

Rampant

^ There is more to speed than raw hp numbers. The GT500 will probably have close to the same hp, but more torque. Not to mention those 20s aren't good for traction. If Ford puts some good rubber on 18s, I think the GT500 would come out on top. Once you get that high in power, traction is a critical issue.

Either way, I just don't understand how Saleen can charge upwards of $20k extra for a very similar performing car.

holderca1

I understand that, if I were given (since I wouldn't waste my money on a Saleen, nor a Shelby for that matter) a S281-E, the first thing to go would be those hideous 20" wheels. I don't think they look good on the car at all, I would definitely swap them out for 18's with high performance tires. I would probably make money on the swap.

iceman241

Actually the Saleen isnt going to be the higher performer cause in the new Mustangs and fast fords magazine in the article where there talking about the GT500 they asked the guy who is making the GT500 if there is going to be a higher performance car then the GT500 and he said that you cant really top a car like the GT500 but plan on putting cars in between the gt that is out right now and the GT500 cars similiar to the mach1 and bullit.

iceman241

Hope everyone checks that magazine out and reads it for thereself. On the front is a car with it wheels in the air and top right hand corner is a picture of the shelby.

holderca1

That guy was talking about cars built by Ford, that has nothing to do with whether Saleen or Roush or whoever won't make a higher performer than the GT500.

iceman241

And holderca1 good thing you wouldnt waste your money on the shelby i wish alot more people wished that then i might have a chance to get one.

iceman241

Ok cool but holderca1 if they make a saleen that has 500hp that wont be enough cause the GT500 is going to have 450-plus-hp the guy who is builing the GT500 said closer to 500hp.

holderca1

Last time I checked 500 is more than 450+.

aksaleen

The E will also be lighter due to it having a 4.6L motor instead of a 5.4L.

iceman241

What do you think 450+ means dummy?

PeterPienaar

They've been doing it for several years, because Saleen fills a different niche than the Cobra does. They've charged $20k more than the Cobra for a lesser-performing car for at least three years now, and they haven't exactly been laughed off the block.

Faber

yep ...you're right....add me to the list of people who cant afford the saleen, and who like to trash it.

I would also add that my modified GT which all said and done hit my wallet for about 32,000.00 will spank the n/a S281 and imho looks better.


but congrats on your purchase anyway....and congrats on having more money than me!


let the flaming begin. :shock:

holderca1

It means until we know the final specs it could mean the car has only 451 hp. Check your numbers again, 500 is still more than 451, more than 460, more than 480. If the car was going to be more than 500, they would have said 500+.

Paleoc

Back in 1968 when they introduced the 428CJ they said it had 335hp when actually it had more like 400hp or so (the vanilla 428 in the family cars was rated at 355hp). There are insurance issues, 500+hp = big insurance hit. Plus if they announce 500hp and someone dynos it and only gets 497hp then they are going to hear about it. I'm not saying that it does 500+ but instead that there are reasons that if it was 500+ why they wouldn't say so.

holderca1

I am not following you insurance argument, no will own this car for at least another year, the production car has yet to be unveiled and the official engine output will be known before people buy and insure the car. I don't think they will have 450+ on the window sticker. Plus Ford isn't paying the insurance premiums, I highly doubt they will hold back on the cars output to reduce insurance premiums, they are going to be insanely expensive regardless.

JessicaRabbitt

Um, I can afford a Saleen, and I am not going to buy one. I dont like the tailend of it AT ALL, I think they ruined it.

Also, the Saleens quality has gone down in a big way. This is not my personal opinion, but the opinion of people who SELL SALEEN. I have had the opportunity to speak with Saleen sales people, and personal friends of the family. I have never owned a Saleen, so I cant say from personal experience. All I know, is the first one I saw the peices were not aligned with the body, the window tint had horrible bubbles, and the tailend made me cringe. I have heard from more than one person tell me to make sure Saleen doesnt come NEAR my car.

All that being said, I would NEVER tell anyone they are an idiot to buy one. If you bought it, and you love it, great. Saleen has defintely built a super car in the S7, and that is defintely a car I would love to own one day. Car, I should say machine. You cant call that thing a car, LOL

I dont find it to be generally true around here that people bash those things they cant afford. I cant afford an S7, or a Ferrari, or a Lambo. You wouldnt catch me DEAD bashing those.