What are you talking about 'no information'?

In this day and age the benefits of a SRA have been obsoleted like the horse drawn carriages they are derived from.

It's basic physics. With a SRA, if one wheel is stressed in aggressive cornering...then BOTH wheels are stressed...with the subsequent degradation in handling.

There are dozens of MODERN cars with IRS packing beyond 400 bhp that PROVE you can benefit from the better handling of the IRS without sacrificing reliability.

Face it, the car is a product of ACCOUNTANTS...not modern ENGINEERING.

 

Welp simple physics will tell you that a perfect IRS will out perform a live axle any day of the week.

I have driven both style and can say without a doubt that I'd rather have an IRS car.

I drive a live axle every day and if I had the cash to swap out mine for a cobra rear it would have been done already.

Now i understand that you are saying that this is an improved live axle..that's all well and good and it very well may be better than the one in my y2K GT. But I'll tell you this right now that I'd trust Goerges 2004 Cobra in a real hard turn with ruts before I'd trust a solid axle car shelby or not.

As Richard Hammond once said try walking with your legs tied together...ok now do it with your legs Not tied together. that's your difference in a nutshell.

 

what harald said
and obviously you are a faster typer too hehehe

 

The IRS SN-95's handle mediocre at best no matter what you do. After years of messing around with them, the best way to make a Fox4 mustang handle well is to get another car.

 

mediocre was lightyears above the solid axle.

 

BRILLIANT analogy.

 

BRAVO! BRAVO! ENCORE! ENCORE! :worship:

No mention of specs, no visual of the car, let along having done a TD.
Sounds like a very logical and sound expert conclusion.

Thai-Tang must be looking over his shoulder.

 

HAHAHAHA George you are a card man!
you make me laugh so bloody hard.

Ok world I'm heading to bed,
peace out!

 

Yes, and no doubt he sees an army of accountants bean counting his every move.

 

So, now we jump to the Bob Lutz deal.

BRILLIANT!!!

 

What are you talking about 'no information'?

In this day and age the benefits of a SRA have been obsoleted like the horse drawn carriages they are derived from.

It's basic physics. With a SRA, if one wheel is stressed in aggressive cornering...then BOTH wheels are stressed...with the subsequent degradation in handling.

There are dozens of MODERN cars with IRS packing beyond 400 bhp that PROVE you can benefit from the better handling of the IRS without sacrificing reliability.

Face it, the car is a product of ACCOUNTANTS...not modern ENGINEERING.
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Don't stress about it, Jacky-boy. Some of these guys also still believe the world's flat, probably cause they've never been more than 60 miles from home.

 

When it comes to lining their pockets, it's the SRA that is recommended by 4 out of 5 dentists...not the IRS.
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Yeah ...only if you are chicken to take it out on a road course, or a 1/4er ...

I am a little bummed it does not have an IRS .... But Ford says it won't matter .... Only one way to find out .....

In other words ...neither of you are correct ..yet .

 

Kevin, I have to ask you .... Do you drive a Cobra IRS regularly on OTC/ORC ?? Well, I do .... My pooty IRS '99 has blown by some pretty formidable opponents in the years I have been doing it .... I even had the pleasure of Audrey Zadvosky to drive my car last year at IRP. The ONLY cars she could not pass in my piece of crap IRS equipped Cobra was the GT supercar and a wildly modified VR4.

Mediocre ..... not even close ..... The best out there ? Maybe not, but darn good.

I get tired of people talking out their hiney on how bad this thing is .... It is not.

 

Yes, and no doubt he sees an army of accountants bean counting his every move.
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Some accountants are mustang nuts as well you know..........

But having NEVER driven a SN95 IRS cobra or a 200x liveaxle GT500 and measured each car on it's relative merits, I will reserve judgement and comments until such time as I have. (I do like the interior though.. )

 

I took a '05 GT for a TD and I will sadly admit it handled just as good as my Cobra within the 80 mph range. There might be a disparity on higher speeds which I cannot confirm. I would be surprised if the stiffer suspension on the Shelby Cobra doesn't make it even better.

 

If you want IRS that bad, wait for the SVT Fusion. Even though you bought a GT with a SRA anyway.

 

im sure the irs would be nice. but the handling on the 05 is worlds abolve the 99-04 model. so i would imagine even w/o the irs it will still handle. but who said it wasnt going to have an irs?? or did i miss it?

 

In a particular situation -- bumpy road surface. If the IRS is definitely better, than explain to me why the FR500C (with it's live axle) just won at Daytona -- against the best that the Germans and Japanese have (with their IRS).

I have both. I have driven them both over the same roads many times, and what I've found is that the IRS doesn't have any magical cornering ability that the live axle doesn't. Slightly better perhaps, but not night & day. What the IRS does have is really nasty halfshaft-breaking wheel hop.

If I had a Mustang with GT power levels, I'd say great, give me IRS and I'll have slightly improved cornering in the twisties. With the power of the Cobra, where it is frequently on the edge of losing traction, I'll take a well designed live axle any day. Even if it only corners like the FR500C, that is an acceptable trade-off for no wheel hop.

Dave

 

It would be an interesting poll to have about how many of those who want IRS have actually driven a car with it.

 

I for one could care less about an IRS. Why is it that half the 03-04 Cobra owners will trade out their IRS in a second for a SRA!