Leak? Or intentional. 06 Mach 1 Pic
#41
Originally posted by adrenalin@December 13, 2004, 11:50 AM
Is it just me or is that a shaker I see on that car
Is it just me or is that a shaker I see on that car
#43
The pic has "cobra" in the title, so it's possible it's a Cobra, but who knows? I'm sure more pics will come out over the next couple of months. A Mach1 with a 5.4L N/A sounds just about perfect.
#45
Originally posted by Steve+December 13, 2004, 10:48 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Steve @ December 13, 2004, 10:48 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-crispy23c@December 13, 2004, 9:01 AM
"Steve", did your contact mention anything about a Cobra convertible? Could you find out? I heard an ugly rumor that the chasis couldn't take the massive torque of the engine, and they might be scrapping the plans for a Cobra convertible...
"Steve", did your contact mention anything about a Cobra convertible? Could you find out? I heard an ugly rumor that the chasis couldn't take the massive torque of the engine, and they might be scrapping the plans for a Cobra convertible...
There seems to be a fair amount of support for it but so far Ford Corporate has not officially stamped a Cobra Vert as a "Go". My source has not seen a Cobra Vert Mule but he did stress that that does not mean one does not exist. He did say he thought we were at least a year away from getting to that point since Ford Corporate/SVT is focusing strictly on the Cobra Coupe at this point.
There IS a lot of disension within Ford (especially from the 'bean counters') about building cars like the Cobra. But it appears that there is indeed enough support within the Blue Oval's walls to see things continue to progress. Vert? Not sure yet. Coupe? That is a definite car that is coming and it will be sooner than previously announced.
As soon as I hear anything else regarding the potential Cobra Vert, I'll post it. [/b][/quote]
Thank you, Steve!
I appreciate the info......keep it coming!
#47
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Originally posted by Evil_Capri@December 13, 2004, 11:19 AM
The "GT" badges would indicate it's not a Mach. But I could be wrong.
The "GT" badges would indicate it's not a Mach. But I could be wrong.
#48
Originally posted by Steve@December 11, 2004, 8:13 PM
The Cobra Mule with the 5.4 Twin Screw that he saw dyno'd put a little over 400+ hp - to the REAR WHEELS(!) which equates to a rated 460/470 hp. That, my friends, is one bad snake.
The Cobra Mule with the 5.4 Twin Screw that he saw dyno'd put a little over 400+ hp - to the REAR WHEELS(!) which equates to a rated 460/470 hp. That, my friends, is one bad snake.
#49
03 Cobras might have been underrated, but not THAT much. They were rated at 390 at the crank, but to get 400 at the wheels they'd have to be making around 470 and I'm not thinking they were off by 80hp You might have gotten 415 at the crank with a K&N and catback, but you weren't putting that kind of power down. More like 415*.15 = ~350.
#50
Originally posted by HairyCanary+December 13, 2004, 2:58 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (HairyCanary @ December 13, 2004, 2:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Steve@December 11, 2004, 8:13 PM
The Cobra Mule with the 5.4 Twin Screw that he saw dyno'd put a little over 400+ hp - to the REAR WHEELS(!) which equates to a rated 460/470 hp. That, my friends, is one bad snake.
The Cobra Mule with the 5.4 Twin Screw that he saw dyno'd put a little over 400+ hp - to the REAR WHEELS(!) which equates to a rated 460/470 hp. That, my friends, is one bad snake.
There is no way a 'stock' or 'nearly stock' 03 Cobra can put 415 hp at the rear wheels. Like it was pointed before, the Cobra's were underrated but not by 80+ HP.
Now, throw a chip, pulley, and exhaust in the mix, you might be at 415 - but not with just a cat back and a K&N.
Don't get me wrong - I'm a HUGE fan of the Cobra's. My son has an '03 that he just dyno'd at 440hp and 460tq at the rear wheels but it has got an AR chip, 2.8" pulley, Dynomax cat back, ported T/B, and a Cold Air setup. The car is an animal!
But a stock '03, even with the mods you listed, will not turn 415 at the rear wheels.
And that, my friend, is the truth.
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Originally posted by 2001GTMILT@December 13, 2004, 11:12 AM
Browsing detnews i came across this little gem. Ford is notorious for leaking things when they feel necessary.
Colletis replacement article
Browsing detnews i came across this little gem. Ford is notorious for leaking things when they feel necessary.
Colletis replacement article
#52
415 is high but not unheard of for a K&N and cat-backed 03-04. I've seen guys with healthy(broke in) 03s get 400RWHP with just the K&N FIPK. From what I've read, the 03-04 Cobra actually makes @425HP once it's got few thousand miles on it. I have the K&N FIPK, FRP FR500 cat-back, 2.95(mild difference), and a Predator tune and made 433RWHP and 430 lb.ft. The same day I did that I installed a 2.77 pulley for a friend and he made 442/470 and his only other mods where a cat-back and a tune.
After living with this beast, I will have to get a Whipple kit for my 05 as soon as they are available.
After living with this beast, I will have to get a Whipple kit for my 05 as soon as they are available.
#53
Originally posted by 2001GTMILT@December 13, 2004, 11:12 AM
Browsing detnews i came across this little gem. Ford is notorious for leaking things when they feel necessary.
Colletis replacement article
Browsing detnews i came across this little gem. Ford is notorious for leaking things when they feel necessary.
Colletis replacement article
#54
Originally posted by Steve@December 13, 2004, 4:28 PM
There is no way a 'stock' or 'nearly stock' 03 Cobra can put 415 hp at the rear wheels. Like it was pointed before, the Cobra's were underrated but not by 80+ HP.
There is no way a 'stock' or 'nearly stock' 03 Cobra can put 415 hp at the rear wheels. Like it was pointed before, the Cobra's were underrated but not by 80+ HP.
Here is the dyno I did one week after I purchased my car (got it used, with 3100 miles on the odometer, the K&N FIPK and Magnaflow cat-back was already installed). You can see that it loses a noticable amount of power on each run, as the heat exchanger gets saturated. The A/F ratio is via a tailpipe sniffer (read: through the cats), so it means little.
This dyno is no longer accurate, for predictable reasons . I just wanted a baseline before I did the bolt-ons.
Dave
#56
You're claiming that a fresh, new 2004 Cobra with just a K&N is making ~500 at the crank. You realize that, right? An engine that is rated at 390hp making 500, that's what you're saying.
The only explanation I can possibly come up with is that these dynos are adding in the expected drivetrain loss to get those numbers. Those are C5 Z06 numbers, I don't see any way those are rwhp figures.
The only explanation I can possibly come up with is that these dynos are adding in the expected drivetrain loss to get those numbers. Those are C5 Z06 numbers, I don't see any way those are rwhp figures.
#57
Originally posted by matic@December 14, 2004, 1:08 AM
You're claiming that a fresh, new 2004 Cobra with just a K&N is making ~500 at the crank. You realize that, right? An engine that is rated at 390hp making 500, that's what you're saying.
The only explanation I can possibly come up with is that these dynos are adding in the expected drivetrain loss to get those numbers. Those are C5 Z06 numbers, I don't see any way those are rwhp figures.
You're claiming that a fresh, new 2004 Cobra with just a K&N is making ~500 at the crank. You realize that, right? An engine that is rated at 390hp making 500, that's what you're saying.
The only explanation I can possibly come up with is that these dynos are adding in the expected drivetrain loss to get those numbers. Those are C5 Z06 numbers, I don't see any way those are rwhp figures.
I don't think that's chrome around the windshield(I hope not anyway) It looks like light reflecting off the rubber seal.
#58
IF the dyno is accurate, those are unbelievable numbers. I would question the accuracy of any dyno unless they have proven and certified calibration/accuracy.
I'm sure many dynos will get within 5-10% of true but even if they are 5% off, that's a potential of over plus/minus ~20hp/Tq with 10% error twice that.
But, if they are dead on numbers then you have a beast of a car!
I'm sure many dynos will get within 5-10% of true but even if they are 5% off, that's a potential of over plus/minus ~20hp/Tq with 10% error twice that.
But, if they are dead on numbers then you have a beast of a car!
#59
Originally posted by Steve@December 14, 2004, 4:50 AM
IF the dyno is accurate, those are unbelievable numbers. I would question the accuracy of any dyno unless they have proven and certified calibration/accuracy.
I'm sure many dynos will get within 5-10% of true but even if they are 5% off, that's a potential of over plus/minus ~20hp/Tq with 10% error twice that.
But, if they are dead on numbers then you have a beast of a car!
IF the dyno is accurate, those are unbelievable numbers. I would question the accuracy of any dyno unless they have proven and certified calibration/accuracy.
I'm sure many dynos will get within 5-10% of true but even if they are 5% off, that's a potential of over plus/minus ~20hp/Tq with 10% error twice that.
But, if they are dead on numbers then you have a beast of a car!
So this is why I think Ford will up the rating for the next Cobra. If they could put in an air filter anywhere near as efficient as a K&N, and still meet all of their longevity requirements, it could easily be called a 450 horsepower car and still be underrated a little. Of course, I would much rather they installed a Whipple to get there .
Dave
#60
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Let's keep this on topic shall we.
Topic is Mach1/Cobra etc leak pic not power someones cobra is putting down.
Take it to Personal Messaging or the appropriate forum.
Thanks.
Let's keep this on topic shall we.
Topic is Mach1/Cobra etc leak pic not power someones cobra is putting down.
Take it to Personal Messaging or the appropriate forum.
Thanks.