Amy V6

Hey Steve...

Ask him if he's seen this car

iwantastang

I would highly regard this information, as this is the closest i've heard to anything ive been told. My only other difference is that I heard they were going Boss, not Mach I, but w/e it is, its gonna be one sweet ride.

captin kapla

Using an engine with an "underrated" 465 from a 550 hp Ford GT is quite odd, imo.

The Ford GT is the "pace car for an entire company." Its engine is the heart of that car and shouldn't be thrown around in even an SVT Mustang Cobra. (I hope they're talking about "Ford" and not Ford Motor Company because Aston Martin, Jaguar, and Land Rover had just about no part in the Ford GT)

Ford needs to invest the parts from the Ford GT into the Shelby GR-1. The GR-1 is one of those concept cars that you'd be stupid not to make. (They have the parts for the Shelby GR-1).

Why not use a 5.0l V-8 like the one that was at the SEMA show? Isn't 440 hp enough? Plus, it would weigh less than a big 5.4l sc/d V-8.

Amy V6

Drove by where I've been seeing mules at.

Does your source know anything about a redfire V6, that does not sound like a V6? And it has/had a huge trailerhitch thingie on it.

Sorry, no pics.. but this is the same one I've seen before.. this time it was parked in the lot.

kevinb120

That or displacement-on-demand B)

kevinb120

Ford GT is actually more like 650hp stock. To make the 5.0 from the 4.6 block it extremely expensive, and not for mass production. The 5.4 does not weigh much more then a 4.6, it is simply a long-stroked version of the 4.6 with a much higher deck height with the same EXACT heads, they can't be much more then 50lbs off from one another.

I think the hurricane will show up in time to replace the V10 idea for a shelby roadster.

Steve

He said that, yes, there IS a Redfire Mule but he didn't know if it is the 5.4 or one of the other motors. He hasn't been in it but will try to get more info on it and get back to me.

We'll see what he says. As soon as he does, I'll post it here.

Amy V6

Ok... cuz so far I have seen a sliver GT with the 18" wheels that were shown on the 05 GT that was at NAIAS last year.. another silver GT with a HUGE black hood scoop (not a cowl hood) a redfire V6 that didn't sound like a V6, and 2 white test mules with the black leopard print.

Tell him to be on the look out for the car I posted.. that's my car

foxhtn

465 Horses....... Bring it on Ford

Wolf

Boss news! I can't wait till January!! It all sounds good to me; 450+ HP, ducktail, IRS... :worship:

Dan

I hate to get anyone down, but I doubt you will see a Mach 1 as an 06 model. I feel Ford will want to get the Cobra out first and then bring out S/E's for 07 when GM is rumoured to bring back a Camaro replacement.

I hope I'm wrong, but I just don't see the need right now. Ford doesn't want too many ***** in the air IMO until they get two good years of Mustang GT sales/troubleshooting under thier belt.

Plus, the people I've talked to haven't heard of anything coming for 06. The contacts weren't as good as steve's guy, but they should know.

BlackRiderX

Couple Things: First, thanks for info Steve!

1. Dan, I agree with you. I think Ford is getting the SE ready now and will release it early if they see sales slide. Remember what they said thge previous SE car's were used to gain interest in the line.

2. Remember the Ford Gt will be just about done when the Cobra hits by the sound of the release info we have heard. I don't think Ford will care about upsetting buyers of a car that is practically going to be easy to sell anyway. Only time will tell.

3. Like I said in another thread, I have a feeling the boy-racer project will be the template for the Cobra. Didn't that car get a 1.5 inch drop for racing as well??

4. The auto transmission is something I also think we would see if Ford is serious about going after other markets. 70% of Vette sales and probably a large chunk of M3s are autos.

crazyhorse

That or displacement-on-demand B) [/b][/quote]
Not exactly "fuel" delivery, but, maybe it is the supercooler that they showed on the L concept. Fot those that don't know what it was, it was a self contained intercooler that used the airconditioning system to super cool the air in the supercharger. It was claimed to give an extra 50hp in short bursts. It was a button activated boost enhancement kinda like nitrous, but didn't use a fuel.

Boomer

Yeah the supercooler was pat. by Colleti himself, and is a very cool idea (pun intended)

I didn't think it was button activited, it was accelerator activated at Wide Open Throttle.

It would last around 20-30 seconds, and took about 5 minutes to 'recharge'

The idea was its a renewable nitrous, in that
'by the time you finished your 1/4 mile run, and got back in line, it was charged by the time you wanted to run again'

Robert

I could be wrong, but I honestly don't see Ford waiting two whole years before bringing out a more upscale Stang - whether it's a special edition or the Cobra. Not with a 400 bhp M3 coming out September '05 and god only knows what else from other manufacturers for the '06 model year.

Two years is too long for Ford - or any manufacturer in today's competitive marketplace - to sit back on their laurels, IMHO. Also, since they're already testing the Cobra, I don't believe they'll need two more years to bring it to market.

I think the GT will stand by itself for a year, then we'll see a more upscale version bow in '06.

2Slack

I read in the book " A New Breed of Pony Car" that we V6 mules were deemed to loud by the engineers and that the exhaust note had to be toned down. Maybe this is just one of the original V6 mules.

TomServo92

I read in the book " A New Breed of Pony Car" that we V6 mules were deemed to loud by the engineers and that the exhaust note had to be toned down. Maybe this is just one of the original V6 mules. [/b][/quote]
I really think she was trying to say it looks like a V6 Mustang but sounds like it has a V8 in it. Is that correct Amy?

captin kapla

A Ford Mustang SVT Cobra with an automatic is about as lame as a Dodge Viper with an automatic.

Again, the Shelby GR-1 is one of those concepts that would be STUPID not to make. They need room between it and the SVT Cobra.

How about a 5.4l N/A'd V-8 with 440 hp? Isn't that enough power? An SVT Cobra with a supercharged 465 hp V-8 would still be a much different car than a C6.

TomServo92

If it helps to increase sales to make the car more viable for Ford, why is it problem? They'll still offer the manual so I'm not sure why you have an issue with it.

Amy V6

I really think she was trying to say it looks like a V6 Mustang but sounds like it has a V8 in it. Is that correct Amy? [/b][/quote]
Not sure. All I know is that it's a redfire V6 (atleast the body is) and didn't sound like a typical V6.